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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 02 2014 15:27 GMT
#14661
On January 02 2014 23:12 hooahah wrote:
you just realized recently. At some point when people have no idea what to do, they just 5man and start pushing. The other team will counter 5man regardless if it's good or not.

My two questions:

1) QoP vs Skywrath mid. How the fuck do I lane vs Skywrath? he just bullied me out of lane with his 70mana, 100% hit bullshit spell. I didn't die but I pretty much lost the lane.

2) Armlet OD - am I crazy for thinking this'd be good? armor, attack speed, regen, sounds like stuff OD needs


Skywrath is 3rd lane bullier in game right now, after OD and Razor. But this chicken is extremely squishy so if he's not getting something like very fast boosters/drums/force staff to run away - you will just outscale him as QoP from 8-9 lvl.
But be aware of 6 seconds seal.
Anyway, i highly recommend to use Skywrath Mage as support on duo lanes, he's fucking incredible there, especially with guys with additional slow like Night Stalker or PA.

Armlet for OD? :D He doesn't need it as much as you do think, because Destroyer isn't as squish as Skywrath for example, gets his attack speed from threads and doesn't require regens because of essence aura and force staff.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
swedewannabe
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden28 Posts
January 02 2014 16:48 GMT
#14662
Do most pros who mid have their autoattack set to on or off?
Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
January 02 2014 17:35 GMT
#14663
What number is bad mmr and what mmr is good?
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-02 17:41:00
January 02 2014 17:40 GMT
#14664
On January 03 2014 02:35 Pjorren wrote:
What number is bad mmr and what mmr is good?

iirc ~3800+ is "very high" skill bracket (from back when those were visible when searching games). Most pros have ~5k mmr, most of the good players have 4000+, though 3000-4000 is still pretty decent.

On January 03 2014 01:48 swedewannabe wrote:
Do most pros who mid have their autoattack set to on or off?

i think most of them have it off. you should use whatever is more comfortable.
:)
swedewannabe
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden28 Posts
January 02 2014 18:02 GMT
#14665
Most of them have it off huh, maybe it's time to adapt and change. Does seem a lot easier when midding.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-02 18:09:55
January 02 2014 18:06 GMT
#14666
it is really up to preference, neither setting actually has a tangible advantage over the other.
as a general rule you shouldnt blindly copy pros in dota. doing that makes a lot more sense in starcraft. If you are gonna copy what pros do then make sure you are asking yourself why they are doing what they do.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
January 02 2014 19:12 GMT
#14667
certainly try both options out, and yeah don't just do it because pros do it.
go with whichever method gets you the most last hits and denies.
:)
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 02 2014 22:15 GMT
#14668
It's just abourt preferences.
For example i'm using aa since dota1 but i'm moving endlessly on lane, never staying on one place.
Even if hitting towers - attack-move-attack-move-attack-move.

So, basically, it's same but about preferences.
Only thing which i can imagine where aa on is bad, probably cliff Furion, most useless shit in whole game. And if only Troll or someone from enemies's team is attackin' you :D
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 02 2014 22:24 GMT
#14669
On January 03 2014 07:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
It's just abourt preferences.
For example i'm using aa since dota1 but i'm moving endlessly on lane, never staying on one place.
Even if hitting towers - attack-move-attack-move-attack-move.

So, basically, it's same but about preferences.
Only thing which i can imagine where aa on is bad, probably cliff Furion, most useless shit in whole game. And if only Troll or someone from enemies's team is attackin' you :D


Hiding in the woods versus centaur. Bane of auto attack on
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 06:25:05
January 03 2014 06:19 GMT
#14670
As radiant where do you start jungling first at the easy camp or do you just start with the medium near the middle lane
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
January 03 2014 07:04 GMT
#14671
Who are you jungling with? =p

Most people will start with the easy camp first and attempt to kill it before it spawns again at 1 minute. Killing the 1 minute spawn as well should get you level 2 unless the safe lane support/offlaner(s) sucked the xp from you.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
January 03 2014 07:17 GMT
#14672
Fooling around with Legion
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 08:26:43
January 03 2014 08:24 GMT
#14673
Legion is happy to do any medium except maybe centaurs at level 1. Just kill the aura creep (biggest one) before the stack timing, and if it's something like wolves or satyrs, stack whatever's left and clear with the extra MoC procs.

I really don't like taking the pull camp early if you have any other options, because of how much it screws up the safelane's control.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 13:23:48
January 03 2014 13:23 GMT
#14674
Big request to all new guys who try to adapt to forest - don't pull easy camps on easy lane :D
Or if you really feel that it's best decision/all camps are filled with furbolgs - stack it and don't pull single.
Thanks.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 16:03:39
January 03 2014 16:03 GMT
#14675
EU server crashed, didn't it?
Rodberd
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany531 Posts
January 03 2014 16:26 GMT
#14676
watching SL8 atm,
from time to time the comments of heros pop into the spectator-screen, like comments.
is this a new feature or sth the casters have to do on their own?
because its really annoying me ...
Ooooh, look at it go
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 03 2014 16:29 GMT
#14677
On January 04 2014 01:26 Rodberd wrote:
watching SL8 atm,
from time to time the comments of heros pop into the spectator-screen, like comments.
is this a new feature or sth the casters have to do on their own?
because its really annoying me ...

It's a feature that can be turned off called captions (aka subtitles). No idea why streamers use it -.-
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
January 03 2014 16:54 GMT
#14678
On January 03 2014 07:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
It's just abourt preferences.
For example i'm using aa since dota1 but i'm moving endlessly on lane, never staying on one place.
Even if hitting towers - attack-move-attack-move-attack-move.

So, basically, it's same but about preferences.
Only thing which i can imagine where aa on is bad, probably cliff Furion, most useless shit in whole game. And if only Troll or someone from enemies's team is attackin' you :D

LD is damn hard to control in lanes with aa on. And stupid Chen attacks stack when you use tornado on it.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 03 2014 17:19 GMT
#14679
Agree about LD and with Chen u can just attack other camp, while Wildkin is furiously casting :D
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 03 2014 19:15 GMT
#14680
Simple question from someone who watches more than actually plays (aka noob): Why is mjollnir never built on whoever and i have only seen 2 heroes ever get maelstrom. Isn't it one of the best AoE effects on an item (yes, i dare to say superior to radiance)?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
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