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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 16 2013 18:56 GMT
#14401
At this point PTA could give +3 to all stats and you'd still advocate going stats over it lol. You aren't even considering the key useage scenario at all, you just like your pet build and are defending it.

Whatever, do what you want. So long as you don't play LC on my team it doesn't affect me lol.
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Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
December 16 2013 20:17 GMT
#14402
Or you have nothing else to say of value so you've decided to insult me personally.

Either way.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 16 2013 20:27 GMT
#14403
...

120 ias is categorically better than any amount of levels in stats in a duel situation.
50 hp regen per PtA level is categorically better than 38 hp per stats level in a duel scenario.

If you try to argue that 1+1 = 3 then I'm going to call you out on it, and if you restate your argument I'm gonna call you dumb rofl. You can't just pretend you are right because I'm calling you dumb.

Your argument regarding silence is utterly invalid because we are referring to duel initiations where you go PtA->Blink->Duel. Your argument regarding mana is also invalid because if you don't have the mana for the combo then don't fight lol. Theres essentially no situation where you don't have mana to combo but stats would somehow make it OK vs levels of PtA making it not OK. Hell the levels in PtA make it more mana efficient heals so you probably will have more mana most of the time with PtA levelled.

Now if you are done feeling insulted because I'm trying to keep the SQSA thread somewhere where people can get CORRECT answers then you can apologize lol.
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SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 20:42:24
December 16 2013 20:42 GMT
#14404
going to have to agree with Sno_Man here. She doesnt need stats THAT badly for you to have to get stats over skill. She has average health and average to slightly above average health gain. Therefore going stats over your spells so early is not really that good. Although her mana pool is low, I still gotta say her W is too good to ignore if you are going carry because of the attack speed.

Her base damage is not bad either, it pretty average. So arguing that because her base damage is poor, therefore your W is ineffective usage of mana is invalid.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 20:45:53
December 16 2013 20:43 GMT
#14405
I am not so dota2 smart (but most know that by now) and I see alot of posts on LC. Now looking at her ultimate, i would say that TQ boots could maybe work aswell? (i am uncertain why it would not)

+4 armour against rightclick damage (4a = 19.4% with armlet = 35.1%)
automatic 10hp heal afterwards which could save gold early
500 gold can go in something else, an earlier armlet and/or earlier other items (hopefully earlier timings).

Is it purely the overal gain of PT-boots and u try to snowball with them (and snowballing with TQ is a bit harder, even when teamganking)? Because if i understand dota2 a bit, armor scales better in general aagainst the psychical damagegain from the opponent (%-wise). U cant gank alone anyways, if i understand the guides correctly.

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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 20:50:13
December 16 2013 20:45 GMT
#14406
Yacobs, do you send yourself mana potions on the courier when playing Legion Commander? I found that because your mana pool is so small, a mana potion will typically top your mana off to use Blink, Duel, and Press the Attack. And once an ally gets mana boots, you won't have any mana issues. And the silence doesn't matter because you use Press the Attack before Blinking, and that is such a specific scenario anyway. Also, I don't think you consider the amazing utility it gives your allies. If you use it only a little preemptively, it can outright save an ally in most scenarios because not many people can outdo a 60 HP/sec heal after using all of their nukes. And the attack speed bonus is pretty huge on any right click hero, even if it is just someone like Bristleback or something.

On December 17 2013 05:43 govie wrote:
I am not so dota2 smart (but most know that by now) and I see alot of posts on LC. Now looking at her ultimate, i would say that TQ boots could maybe work aswell? (i am uncertain why it would not)

+4 armour against rightclick damage (4a = 19.4% with armlet = 35.1%)
automatic 10hp heal afterwards which could save gold early
500 gold can go in something else, an earlier armlet and/or earlier other items (hopefully earlier timings).

Is it purely the overal gain of PT-boots and u try to snowball with them (and snowballing with TQ is a bit harder, even when teamganking)? Because if i understand dota2 a bit, armor scales better in general aagainst the psychical damagegain from the opponent (%-wise). U cant gank alone anyways, if i understand the guides correctly.


I prefer Phase boots because it seems like you have very little mobility in fights. I'm not sure though, and it might be personal preference.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
December 16 2013 20:47 GMT
#14407
On December 17 2013 05:43 govie wrote:
I am not so dota2 smart (but most know that by now) and I see alot of posts on LC. Now looking at her ultimate, i would say that TQ boots could maybe work aswell? (i am uncertain why it would not)

+4 armour against rightclick damage (4a = 19.4% with armlet = 35.1%)
automatic 10hp heal afterwards which could save gold early
500 gold can go in something else, an earlier armlet and/or earlier other items (hopefully earlier timings).

Is it purely the overal gain of PT-boots and u try to snowball with them (and snowballing with TQ is a bit harder, even when teamganking)? Because if i understand dota2 a bit, armor scales better in general aagainst the psychical damagegain from the opponent (%-wise). U cant gank alone anyways, if i understand the guides correctly.



TQ boot nerf has made it unviable on carries. (The effect breaks if you attack or receive hero damage). PT's are your typical carry boots which is why they are chosen and accompanied with a blink dagger. Phase if you skip blink, so you have movespeed to initiate the ult+PtA combo.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 16 2013 20:49 GMT
#14408
Tranquil boots are awful awful awful. LC has 2 different skills that heal her (Moment of courage and Press the Attack). So the regen part of tranquils doesn't exist. LC is constantly attacking, so the boots will be constantly broken. 4 armor is cute but its not worth the boots slot at all. LC can really use the mobility and damage from phase and the DPS and life from treads so those 2 are by far the only boots worth considering.

Mostly it comes down to your "plan". Are you a mobile ganker/disabler/teamplayer with your heal or are you trying to transition into late-game hardcarry. Treads = farm+carry, Phase = gank. Do note that you need to gank anyway, but with phase you are looking at pure gank whereas with treads you can mix it up a bit, and look to the lategame via farming if there arent any easy ganks available.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
December 16 2013 20:50 GMT
#14409
On December 17 2013 05:47 Slardar wrote:
(The effect breaks if you attack or receive hero damage).

Just clarifying: Tranquil boots don't break if you receive hero spell damage. Only on autoattack or on receiving an autoattack.
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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
December 16 2013 21:00 GMT
#14410
On December 17 2013 05:50 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 05:47 Slardar wrote:
(The effect breaks if you attack or receive hero damage).

Just clarifying: Tranquil boots don't break if you receive hero spell damage. Only on autoattack or on receiving an autoattack.


Why do I think that Tranquils don't break when you are hit, but when you are attacked. By that I mean a rightclick on your hero is what breaks the boots, not the projectile hitting.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 16 2013 21:22 GMT
#14411
On December 17 2013 06:00 Oukka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 05:50 Firebolt145 wrote:
On December 17 2013 05:47 Slardar wrote:
(The effect breaks if you attack or receive hero damage).

Just clarifying: Tranquil boots don't break if you receive hero spell damage. Only on autoattack or on receiving an autoattack.


Why do I think that Tranquils don't break when you are hit, but when you are attacked. By that I mean a rightclick on your hero is what breaks the boots, not the projectile hitting.

They break at the same point as return triggers, that is, the commencement of the attack. You are correct. They are not like salves which break upon receiving the damage.

At one point they broke as soon as an attack command was issues which meant that a hero across the map could keep your boots broken LOL. That got fixed though (was a bug).
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
December 16 2013 21:35 GMT
#14412
thx all. i think i understand
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EcterA
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States949 Posts
December 17 2013 06:53 GMT
#14413
Say you only have 7 minutes left of bonus battle points, will it only apply to the first seven minutes of your next match?
majava
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland248 Posts
December 17 2013 10:20 GMT
#14414
On December 17 2013 05:50 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 05:47 Slardar wrote:
(The effect breaks if you attack or receive hero damage).

Just clarifying: Tranquil boots don't break if you receive hero spell damage. Only on autoattack or on receiving an autoattack.

And it aint only hero damage
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
December 17 2013 10:54 GMT
#14415
What are some general item progressions on Sniper? I know you eventually want Butterfly and Crit, but how do you get there. And I know it isn't the same every game, but I'm truly lost and I just need a general outline.

Is Shadow Blade necessary for positioning and mobility (even if they get detection?) or did the nerfs on the item make it bad unless the enemy doesn't have protection.

Is Phase Drums Yasha into whatever a good build on Sniper if you're needed for early game fighting and/or can't farm a lane.

If you don't need the early game power of Phase Drums Yasha, what are some items to get to help you farm?
EtherealBlade
Profile Joined August 2010
660 Posts
December 17 2013 11:31 GMT
#14416
On December 17 2013 19:54 Whole wrote:
What are some general item progressions on Sniper? I know you eventually want Butterfly and Crit, but how do you get there. And I know it isn't the same every game, but I'm truly lost and I just need a general outline.

Is Shadow Blade necessary for positioning and mobility (even if they get detection?) or did the nerfs on the item make it bad unless the enemy doesn't have protection.

Is Phase Drums Yasha into whatever a good build on Sniper if you're needed for early game fighting and/or can't farm a lane.

If you don't need the early game power of Phase Drums Yasha, what are some items to get to help you farm?


Butterfly is not bad but generally speaking, you don't need evasion as Sniper so I'd say it's situational at best.
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
December 17 2013 11:34 GMT
#14417
Mjolnir is super sweet to get on sniper, and yes try not to rely on the crutch that is shadow blade anymore.
Rodberd
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany531 Posts
December 17 2013 12:35 GMT
#14418
can you stack linkens?
like heroA has his own linkins and heroB uses his on heroA, will he have 2 linken shields than?
Ooooh, look at it go
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 12:49:37
December 17 2013 12:48 GMT
#14419
I played against a MoM+MkB combo or atleast i thought he had mkb too. everyone melted and lost.

MoM is cheap and good on sniper apparantly. MKB Hits more often thx to the MoM-effect. A molnjir will not lightning so often as the MKB will ministun. The molnjir can only lightning when the earlier lightning is gone. MKB has truestrike.

It depends what u need in the game. U need AoE in your team i say get molnjir. U need or want to gank more get a MKB after MoM.
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StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 13:50:08
December 17 2013 13:44 GMT
#14420
On December 17 2013 21:35 Rodberd wrote:
can you stack linkens?
like heroA has his own linkins and heroB uses his on heroA, will he have 2 linken shields than?

Yes I think so.

I'll 1 up it: can you use the linkens active on yourself, and thus by buying 2 linkens give yourself 2 spell shields?
edit, nvm stupid question, using a linkens on yourself will obviously put both on cd
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