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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
December 13 2013 16:32 GMT
#14321
Sorry to be so needy, but
It's the same list as Slark's Dark Pact or Tide's Kraken Shell.

is there an actual list of this somewhere?
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
December 13 2013 16:52 GMT
#14322
On December 13 2013 20:49 Belisarius wrote:
Crit is disabled in duel, isn't it?

Blademail rocks, armlet seems good if you're snowballing.

Yeah, Crit is disabled during duel. However, with duel stacks, that crit should come to really good use when you're not using your ulti.
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 19:16:43
December 13 2013 19:14 GMT
#14323
On December 13 2013 19:23 Scalepad wrote:
What items should you aim for on LC? Like, later on, after boots and blink. Attack speed?

BKB AC

BKB is absolutely necessary for teamfighting. The secondary use of Duel other than as a ganking skill is as a 4-5s initiating disable that goes through magic immunity. Without BKB, initiating this way is basically a lost Duel every time.

Crit is basically your 6th item if you get one at all. Prior to that survivability is your priority. Damage should not be a huge concern simply because if you're getting successful Duels, you will get so much free damage. Your priority should be staying in fights to do your damage.
yango pls
Sayscho BoB
Profile Joined March 2012
17 Posts
December 13 2013 19:31 GMT
#14324
Does the Elder Titan Aura reduce the Magic Resistance of heroes under the effect of the Medusa Ulti, making them vulnerable to spells?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 13 2013 19:32 GMT
#14325
No, because it doesn't actually modify their resistance but rather multiplies the incoming damage.
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NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
December 13 2013 19:33 GMT
#14326
On December 14 2013 04:31 Sayscho BoB wrote:
Does the Elder Titan Aura reduce the Magic Resistance of heroes under the effect of the Medusa Ulti, making them vulnerable to spells?

ET's aura isn't actually a magic resistance reduction, it's a % magic damage amplification of equivalent %. Which means against targets that take 0 magic damage, amplifying that doesn't cause them to take magic damage.
yango pls
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 13 2013 20:26 GMT
#14327
is legion commander's passive suppose to give lifesteal to the instant proc and the autoattack afterwards? i never played dota 1 so i dont know if its intended or a bug.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 13 2013 20:29 GMT
#14328
In dota 1 it gave .5s of lifesteal and max attackspeed, which meant that you always got 1 attack of lifesteal and it gave you slightly more than 1 free attack if you will which means sometimes you got 2 attacks of lifesteal.

In dota 2 its kinda messed up but you always get max 1 lifesteal attack. So it was better in dota 1.
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 20:41:47
December 13 2013 20:40 GMT
#14329
when i was testing lc, when the passive proced it gave lifesteal on the proc and the autoattack after though. when the proc happens it does an attack and steals 80% and the auto after also steals 80%.
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 20:50:54
December 13 2013 20:49 GMT
#14330
On December 14 2013 05:40 aintz wrote:
when i was testing lc, when the passive proced it gave lifesteal on the proc and the autoattack after though. when the proc happens it does an attack and steals 80% and the auto after also steals 80%.

There are dev forum reports of the same thing from today when people were getting the behavior Sn0_man mentioned yesterday.

Valve may have fixed it in one of the small patches from last night or this morning.
yango pls
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 13 2013 20:50 GMT
#14331
From wat ran is saying it may be "overfixed" aka always double stealing which would be probably much too good.

Dunno haven't personally tried anything at all
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NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
December 13 2013 20:51 GMT
#14332
According to dev forums, the double lifesteal happens ~50% of the time just like in Warcraft 3 DotA.

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=117602
yango pls
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
December 13 2013 22:43 GMT
#14333
I swear I got 3-4 lifesteal hits instantly on Roshan once. I frequently see 2 hits in general.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
December 13 2013 23:36 GMT
#14334
So I duelled an OD today and got obliterated by his orb. I did not expect it to still be active. Is that a bug?
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2013 00:01 GMT
#14335
On December 14 2013 08:36 Belisarius wrote:
So I duelled an OD today and got obliterated by his orb. I did not expect it to still be active. Is that a bug?


Duel prevents you from using active skills and items because you can't activate them. If OD has his orb on autocast, then it would have been enabled before the duel anyway, as it no longer counts as manually casting a spell each attack.
We CAN have nice things
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 00:10:07
December 14 2013 00:08 GMT
#14336
On December 14 2013 09:01 Kmatt wrote:
Duel prevents you from using active skills and items because you can't activate them. If OD has his orb on autocast, then it would have been enabled before the duel anyway, as it no longer counts as manually casting a spell each attack.

Wrong. Duel's "cannot use items/spells" state is functionally equivalent to Doom. If it's disabled by Doom, it should be disabled by Duel. This includes autocast orbs--in fact it should include almost ALL orbs (with Deso and Skadi being exceptions).

So yes, it's a bug.
yango pls
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 01:09:46
December 14 2013 01:09 GMT
#14337
On December 14 2013 09:08 NotYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 09:01 Kmatt wrote:
Duel prevents you from using active skills and items because you can't activate them. If OD has his orb on autocast, then it would have been enabled before the duel anyway, as it no longer counts as manually casting a spell each attack.

Wrong. Duel's "cannot use items/spells" state is functionally equivalent to Doom. If it's disabled by Doom, it should be disabled by Duel. This includes autocast orbs--in fact it should include almost ALL orbs (with Deso and Skadi being exceptions).

So yes, it's a bug.


Okay so playing with this a bit more.... this is weird. Doom and duel behave differently, but they both have some bugs.

- Duel doesn't disable any autocast orb if it's been toggled before the duel starts (eg. clinkz, drow etc). Doom does this correctly.
- Both Doom and Duel disable lifesteal from unholy rage and vladimir's aura, which they should not.
- Neither Doom nor Duel disables OoV, although both should.

Am I getting the dota1 behavior correct? And are there any other big ones to check?
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 01:16:40
December 14 2013 01:15 GMT
#14338
Neither Doom nor Duel properly disable Maelstrom/Mjollnir, but this one has been on the KBL for a long time.

Worth checking whether any of the "weird" triggered passives like Juxtapose and Kraken Shell are properly disabled by Duel.
yango pls
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 05:01:52
December 14 2013 03:05 GMT
#14339
How do you set a custom status in dota 2 to say whatever you want, like "NEED FROSTIVUS FRIENDS PLZ!!"

etc.

edit: On topic, OD orb 100% disabled by Doom, so yes, seems like a bug that duel wouldn't disable it.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 14 2013 05:50 GMT
#14340
Go to your profile, then it the little pen icon by "main menu"
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
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