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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
September 20 2013 20:37 GMT
#12261
Maelstrom/Mjollnir is uncommon I feel due to the chain lightning proc being a fixed magic damage as opposed to damage BASED off your current attack damage. (which would be a cool change imo)

What Yango said. It's not that Skadi is particularly a horrible item (plenty of heroes can make use of it), its just priority lies with items that supplement your farming or synergize incredibly well with your heroes skillset. In PL's case, former would be Yasha(movespeed) while latter synergy would be Diffusal Blade. Always remember a carries goal is to farm as quickly and efficiently as possible, which is why Bfury,Midas,Maelstrom, and Yasha core pickups on different carries.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
September 20 2013 21:50 GMT
#12262
On September 20 2013 15:14 TheYango wrote:
Entangle doesn't use PRD.


So I just remember this one earlier, while watching a video just uploaded on dotacinema where xvroguegaming states entangle is PRD. Which one is correct?
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
September 20 2013 22:06 GMT
#12263
On September 21 2013 06:50 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 15:14 TheYango wrote:
Entangle doesn't use PRD.


So I just remember this one earlier, while watching a video just uploaded on dotacinema where xvroguegaming states entangle is PRD. Which one is correct?

its a triggered effect, it does not

Similarly, ogre magi multicast and greater bash also do not use PRD
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 22:40:52
September 20 2013 22:33 GMT
#12264
On the topic of mkb vs crit, could an mkb potentially be better dps wise on windrunner when she is using her ult?

Also, is it possible to get a crit and a minibash at the same time, and if so, does the crit add the minibash damage into the calculation?

Edit: Also (sorry, I get these kind of questions almost non-stop while reading threads) if Silencer uses last word on alchemist, and alchemist uses unstable concoction, does starting the concoction proc last word? Along the same vein, if Silencer casts last word on Alchemist after Alchemist activates unstable concoction, does throwing the concoction proc last word? Additionally, do ults like Lone Druid and Alch proc last word?
The Turtle Moves
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
September 20 2013 22:46 GMT
#12265
On September 21 2013 07:06 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 06:50 Excludos wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:14 TheYango wrote:
Entangle doesn't use PRD.


So I just remember this one earlier, while watching a video just uploaded on dotacinema where xvroguegaming states entangle is PRD. Which one is correct?

its a triggered effect, it does not

Similarly, ogre magi multicast and greater bash also do not use PRD


Is this different from dota 1? Everywhere I search, all I'm finding is that entangle is PRD, unlike multicast and greater bash.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
September 20 2013 22:47 GMT
#12266
On September 21 2013 07:46 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 07:06 Shaella wrote:
On September 21 2013 06:50 Excludos wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:14 TheYango wrote:
Entangle doesn't use PRD.


So I just remember this one earlier, while watching a video just uploaded on dotacinema where xvroguegaming states entangle is PRD. Which one is correct?

its a triggered effect, it does not

Similarly, ogre magi multicast and greater bash also do not use PRD


Is this different from dota 1? Everywhere I search, all I'm finding is that entangle is PRD, unlike multicast and greater bash.

as far as I ever knew, Entangle has been straight RNG
its possible i'm dead wrong
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
September 20 2013 22:51 GMT
#12267
On September 21 2013 07:47 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 07:46 Excludos wrote:
On September 21 2013 07:06 Shaella wrote:
On September 21 2013 06:50 Excludos wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:14 TheYango wrote:
Entangle doesn't use PRD.


So I just remember this one earlier, while watching a video just uploaded on dotacinema where xvroguegaming states entangle is PRD. Which one is correct?

its a triggered effect, it does not

Similarly, ogre magi multicast and greater bash also do not use PRD


Is this different from dota 1? Everywhere I search, all I'm finding is that entangle is PRD, unlike multicast and greater bash.

as far as I ever knew, Entangle has been straight RNG
its possible i'm dead wrong



I'm not sure anyone knows at this point.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Pseudo_Random_Distribution says one thing,
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Pseudo-random_distribution says another.
GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
September 20 2013 23:01 GMT
#12268
On September 21 2013 07:51 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 07:47 Shaella wrote:
On September 21 2013 07:46 Excludos wrote:
On September 21 2013 07:06 Shaella wrote:
On September 21 2013 06:50 Excludos wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:14 TheYango wrote:
Entangle doesn't use PRD.


So I just remember this one earlier, while watching a video just uploaded on dotacinema where xvroguegaming states entangle is PRD. Which one is correct?

its a triggered effect, it does not

Similarly, ogre magi multicast and greater bash also do not use PRD


Is this different from dota 1? Everywhere I search, all I'm finding is that entangle is PRD, unlike multicast and greater bash.

as far as I ever knew, Entangle has been straight RNG
its possible i'm dead wrong



I'm not sure anyone knows at this point.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Pseudo_Random_Distribution says one thing,
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Pseudo-random_distribution says another.


Well, if it does use PRD, then you could potentially create opportunities for first or second hit entangles by hitting creeps until you've gone on a streak without procs. Maybe that's how Admiral Bulldog does it O.o
The Turtle Moves
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 23:06:40
September 20 2013 23:06 GMT
#12269
On September 21 2013 07:46 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 07:06 Shaella wrote:
On September 21 2013 06:50 Excludos wrote:
On September 20 2013 15:14 TheYango wrote:
Entangle doesn't use PRD.


So I just remember this one earlier, while watching a video just uploaded on dotacinema where xvroguegaming states entangle is PRD. Which one is correct?

its a triggered effect, it does not

Similarly, ogre magi multicast and greater bash also do not use PRD


Is this different from dota 1? Everywhere I search, all I'm finding is that entangle is PRD, unlike multicast and greater bash.

Yes it is different from DotA 1 and has not been fixed in DotA 2.

Entangle is based on Orb of Slow in DotA 1, which does use PRD to determine proc (same base spell as Maelstrom/Mjollnir). However, no cooldown-based procs use PRD in DotA 2.

Being triggered has nothing to do with it, because the trigger can be tied to a base spell that uses PRD to determine procs.
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saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 02:49:10
September 21 2013 02:48 GMT
#12270
i'm still playing dota 1,,

why is bara harder to play against in this version than the previous version where empowering haste adds 62 physical damage at lvl 7? (personally im guessing it's due to the new charge faster, doesn't show sign and is harder to stun before hitting and more nuking ability with spells)

nowadays i see bara, furion and slark in almost every -ap game i play (bara ~95%, furion 90%, slark 70-80% of the games), is there any heroes that can solo rape all three of these(can't rely on teammates) throughout all stages of the game or at least two(early, mid, late)?
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
September 21 2013 04:07 GMT
#12271
SB and Slark are designed to solo rape you, so...
Not to lose hope, there's always Naix, Ursa and Huskar to some degree.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
September 21 2013 04:31 GMT
#12272
ta? or treant?
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
September 21 2013 05:01 GMT
#12273
Simple question : heroes that are never drafted (for example, Meepo at TI3) or nearly never drafted (Invoker, Morphling, ...) are probably at the same time :

- a bit underpowered
- not fitting the metagame

However, this is a very vague sentence. Is the metagame the real thing and all heroes are well balanced? Or is it the other way around.

My question is : have we seen in the past massive drop in popularities of some heroes without any balance patch? Or massive surge in popularities?
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 05:31:41
September 21 2013 05:24 GMT
#12274
simple question, when jungling with bat and clearing stack at lvl 2, how many napalm should be placed on the stack for optimum clearing?

edit: or is it more optimum to continue stacking until i reach lvl 3?
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
September 21 2013 05:33 GMT
#12275
4 or 5 stacks +extra, if you don't want to kill the easy camp too. Time-wise that's fastest.(since additional stacks take 3 seconds).
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 21 2013 05:47 GMT
#12276
You generally want to stack it once more after you hit level 2 off the small camp (so the small camp can respawn). Once you clear the stack at that point you should have enough levels/gold to just farm camps straightforwardly with Tranquils or Bottle.
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tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
September 21 2013 08:06 GMT
#12277
Does anyone know how much dps the DP ulti does? I have a difficult time estimating how much damage her ulti does. I know it does about 45 damage per spirit but I don't know how frequently a spirit attacks.
Road to 6sange
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
September 21 2013 08:24 GMT
#12278
On September 21 2013 17:06 tauon wrote:
Does anyone know how much dps the DP ulti does? I have a difficult time estimating how much damage her ulti does. I know it does about 45 damage per spirit but I don't know how frequently a spirit attacks.

Tried measuring it by attacking a tier one tower. Lvl 3 ulti killed it at the same speed as a 300dps Alchemist.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
September 21 2013 08:40 GMT
#12279
On September 21 2013 17:24 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 17:06 tauon wrote:
Does anyone know how much dps the DP ulti does? I have a difficult time estimating how much damage her ulti does. I know it does about 45 damage per spirit but I don't know how frequently a spirit attacks.

Tried measuring it by attacking a tier one tower. Lvl 3 ulti killed it at the same speed as a 300dps Alchemist.

Thanks.

So that's about 12dps per spirit or each spirit attack once every 4s.

Thanks
Road to 6sange
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
September 21 2013 13:32 GMT
#12280
How do I solo safelane against Lich offlane? I can't stop him from using Dark Ritual.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
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