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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 01:36:22
September 16 2013 01:35 GMT
#12141
On September 16 2013 10:31 rebdomine wrote:
On that vein, who wins Bat vs QoP?

qop has better range (better harass), higher damage, better mobility which means safer vs bat allins and better rune control
:)
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 16 2013 03:05 GMT
#12142
QoP is indeed a pretty safe pick vs. Bat.

Another pick that "counters" Batrider comes to mind is Skywrath mage. Someone I know swears on it.
Just go all out on lvl 1 and 2 with arcane bolt and have silence ready when he comes too close.
Similar problem as with picking OD though, you are then stuck with Skywrath mage mid, while Bat just goes jungling for 5 minutes and gets a timely blink dagger anyway.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 16 2013 03:57 GMT
#12143
On September 16 2013 10:01 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Playdota.com? Not specific to dota2 but dota in general. Or joindota.com

There's also http://dev.dota2.com/ which is the official forum for dota 2. At least, for everything but balance suggestions (which should be done at playdota).

Look through the bug section, exploit the bugs, post exploits to reddit, watch them get fixed.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8915 Posts
September 16 2013 04:04 GMT
#12144
Why does it say firebolt is the thread starter? This is blasphemy
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
September 16 2013 04:14 GMT
#12145
How to keep unreliable gold down while 6 slotted in super late game?
I just had a 90 minute game as prophet where I was 6 slotted at 45 but I couldn't find anyway to keep unreliable gold down.
I had every item I wanted and ended with over 650 last hits but with 4000+ unreliable gold it was always uncertain if I could buyback.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 16 2013 04:37 GMT
#12146
On September 16 2013 13:14 TyrionSC2 wrote:
How to keep unreliable gold down while 6 slotted in super late game?
I just had a 90 minute game as prophet where I was 6 slotted at 45 but I couldn't find anyway to keep unreliable gold down.
I had every item I wanted and ended with over 650 last hits but with 4000+ unreliable gold it was always uncertain if I could buyback.

There's an easier way - memorize these formulas -

Every time you die you lose 30*LevelOfYourHero unreliable gold, the only way to reduce this amount is with a Bloodstone - you'll lose 25 gold less for every Bloodstone charge
.
Not waiting until your hero respawns and paying the buyback fee (100+Level*Level*1.5+GameTime*15, rounded down to a multiplier of 50). This will take away from your reliable gold pool first.


http://www.playdota.com/mechanics/Gold

evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 05:04:02
September 16 2013 05:02 GMT
#12147
On September 16 2013 13:14 TyrionSC2 wrote:
How to keep unreliable gold down while 6 slotted in super late game?
I just had a 90 minute game as prophet where I was 6 slotted at 45 but I couldn't find anyway to keep unreliable gold down.
I had every item I wanted and ended with over 650 last hits but with 4000+ unreliable gold it was always uncertain if I could buyback.

Having over 3000 gold will guarantee a buyback at pretty much all stages of the game. And all your cs translates into unreliable gold, so you cant really prevent it from accumulating
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 06:40:53
September 16 2013 06:40 GMT
#12148
On September 16 2013 13:04 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Why does it say firebolt is the thread starter? This is blasphemy

Control has been assumed-- the banned original op can't update the first post.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
September 16 2013 06:47 GMT
#12149
On September 16 2013 13:04 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Why does it say firebolt is the thread starter? This is blasphemy

World domination.
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Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
September 16 2013 11:01 GMT
#12150
I've so far purchased two tournament tickets, and in spectating both of them with different casters, caster voices are really laggy. I don't have any connection issues as I can watch twitch streams np. Is there a setting to make this problem go away, or is this the general experience with caster voices in-game client?
#1 Grubby Fan.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 16 2013 14:42 GMT
#12151
On September 16 2013 20:01 Derrida wrote:
I've so far purchased two tournament tickets, and in spectating both of them with different casters, caster voices are really laggy. I don't have any connection issues as I can watch twitch streams np. Is there a setting to make this problem go away, or is this the general experience with caster voices in-game client?

I'm not sure if there's a fix, but it's pretty well known that the stream audio is much better than the dotatv audio.
:)
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 16 2013 17:00 GMT
#12152
Are they PW (ie chinese) tournaments? I've heard there are some VPN settings you can try that might help (which is what BTS uses so they don't get quite as much packet loss)
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
September 16 2013 17:07 GMT
#12153
Why is Visage considered as a top-tier hero and picked frequently in tournaments? I've never seen the goddamn bird turn a game. What's a good visage play consist of anyway, stunning with birds?
#1 Grubby Fan.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 16 2013 17:31 GMT
#12154
On September 17 2013 02:07 Derrida wrote:
Why is Visage considered as a top-tier hero and picked frequently in tournaments? I've never seen the goddamn bird turn a game. What's a good visage play consist of anyway, stunning with birds?

visage single handedly wins trilanes, especially in tri vs tri situations where you can end up winning just from snowballing your trilane carry + 2 supports. with a medallion + aghs, visage also becomes a solo killing monster. also, being able to aoe stun 3 times in any place you want is pretty handy in teamfights.

a good visage game involves winning your lane hard, nuking and stunning the shit out of everyone in teamfights, scouting the entire map with birds and stuff,
:)
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 18:58:19
September 16 2013 18:27 GMT
#12155
On September 17 2013 02:07 Derrida wrote:
Why is Visage considered as a top-tier hero and picked frequently in tournaments? I've never seen the goddamn bird turn a game. What's a good visage play consist of anyway, stunning with birds?


Grave Chill is a huge debuff that prevents the enemy from carrying. Soul Assumption does massive amounts of damage. Birds are maphack. There are a lot of subtle things about visage that make him strong so you aren't going to notice anything flashy.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 16 2013 18:40 GMT
#12156
Visage is actually a hero that has huge influence on games, just not in the way that a big sparkly effect makes everyone dead.

The summoned birds do real good damage, which alone can kill enemy supports if they are caught out far from help. He functions very well without any items, since he has reliable damage from a pretty good range.
The fact that the birds have flying vision and move and stun completely independent from you adds a lot of utility to him.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 16 2013 23:51 GMT
#12157
On September 16 2013 13:37 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 13:14 TyrionSC2 wrote:
How to keep unreliable gold down while 6 slotted in super late game?
I just had a 90 minute game as prophet where I was 6 slotted at 45 but I couldn't find anyway to keep unreliable gold down.
I had every item I wanted and ended with over 650 last hits but with 4000+ unreliable gold it was always uncertain if I could buyback.

There's an easier way - memorize these formulas -

Show nested quote +
Every time you die you lose 30*LevelOfYourHero unreliable gold, the only way to reduce this amount is with a Bloodstone - you'll lose 25 gold less for every Bloodstone charge
.
Not waiting until your hero respawns and paying the buyback fee (100+Level*Level*1.5+GameTime*15, rounded down to a multiplier of 50). This will take away from your reliable gold pool first.


http://www.playdota.com/mechanics/Gold


Don't even need to memorise the second formula (for buyback cost) as you can find that out by hovering over your gold count
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 01:52:48
September 17 2013 01:52 GMT
#12158
Does that cost include gold lost on death?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 17 2013 01:58 GMT
#12159
On September 17 2013 10:52 TyrionSC2 wrote:
Does that cost include gold lost on death?


The buyback cost doesn't change when you die. If part of your buyback gold is unreliable then you should account for losing part of it when you die though yes.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
September 17 2013 02:20 GMT
#12160
On September 16 2013 13:14 TyrionSC2 wrote:
How to keep unreliable gold down while 6 slotted in super late game?
I just had a 90 minute game as prophet where I was 6 slotted at 45 but I couldn't find anyway to keep unreliable gold down.
I had every item I wanted and ended with over 650 last hits but with 4000+ unreliable gold it was always uncertain if I could buyback.


Hard to figure out what you mean by "keep unreliable gold down"... Spend it? But I think your question is more like, "How do I make it so that more of my gold is reliable". And well, the answer to that would be well... Kill people =\ Or buy a midas with your ridiculous richness for the sole purpose of generating reliable gold. I guess you could keep the midas on the chicken when you're not using it...
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