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Coil1
Profile Joined January 2013
128 Posts
August 13 2013 05:53 GMT
#11281
What makes basi good on some heroes but not others? Basi is really common on say, windrunner, but why not shadow demon? or rubick?
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 13 2013 06:22 GMT
#11282
What is the most optimal way to shutdown Huskar in pubs?

I used to pick TA and completely pwn him in mid, but looks like recent buff give him more immune?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 13 2013 07:38 GMT
#11283
On August 13 2013 14:53 Coil1 wrote:
What makes basi good on some heroes but not others? Basi is really common on say, windrunner, but why not shadow demon? or rubick?

Basi is typically a tool for sidelane farmers (e.g. off-laners or carries) as a tool for lane control and general mana in lane. It is especially appealing in trilane scenarios.

Supports generally are not the ones to buy a Basi unless there is no other holder, because they often do not spend the time in lane to utilize the lane control aspect of the item, and generally need cheaper raw stats.
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Coil1
Profile Joined January 2013
128 Posts
August 13 2013 10:13 GMT
#11284
On August 13 2013 16:38 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 14:53 Coil1 wrote:
What makes basi good on some heroes but not others? Basi is really common on say, windrunner, but why not shadow demon? or rubick?

Basi is typically a tool for sidelane farmers (e.g. off-laners or carries) as a tool for lane control and general mana in lane. It is especially appealing in trilane scenarios.

Supports generally are not the ones to buy a Basi unless there is no other holder, because they often do not spend the time in lane to utilize the lane control aspect of the item, and generally need cheaper raw stats.

But in a pub, I find I spend way more time in lane than I do in ixdl or something. As long as no one else has it, it's good? Also I know the armor from aquila doesn't stack with basi but does the regen?
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 13 2013 10:56 GMT
#11285
On August 13 2013 19:13 Coil1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 16:38 TheYango wrote:
On August 13 2013 14:53 Coil1 wrote:
What makes basi good on some heroes but not others? Basi is really common on say, windrunner, but why not shadow demon? or rubick?

Basi is typically a tool for sidelane farmers (e.g. off-laners or carries) as a tool for lane control and general mana in lane. It is especially appealing in trilane scenarios.

Supports generally are not the ones to buy a Basi unless there is no other holder, because they often do not spend the time in lane to utilize the lane control aspect of the item, and generally need cheaper raw stats.

But in a pub, I find I spend way more time in lane than I do in ixdl or something. As long as no one else has it, it's good? Also I know the armor from aquila doesn't stack with basi but does the regen?

It's the exact same aura, so no. You can have each aura exactly once.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
August 13 2013 11:36 GMT
#11286
On August 13 2013 15:22 haduken wrote:
What is the most optimal way to shutdown Huskar in pubs?

I used to pick TA and completely pwn him in mid, but looks like recent buff give him more immune?


Physical damage, heroes with pure damage (tinker is amazing as is timber saw), diffusal to remove ghost scepter if he goes that route
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
August 13 2013 16:34 GMT
#11287
On August 13 2013 20:36 KOFgokuon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 15:22 haduken wrote:
What is the most optimal way to shutdown Huskar in pubs?

I used to pick TA and completely pwn him in mid, but looks like recent buff give him more immune?


Physical damage, heroes with pure damage (tinker is amazing as is timber saw), diffusal to remove ghost scepter if he goes that route

I have found that the best way to deal with Huskar is to kill him a lot. I haven't found a good way to out lane him (burning spears are insanely good now), but if you can gank/counter gank him when he dives your teammates you can set him really far behind. I really like Tinker (pure damage laser with a blind is really awesome) and Timbersaw (lots of pure damage with the -strength from Whirling Death) for killing Huskar.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 13 2013 17:03 GMT
#11288
On August 14 2013 01:34 Shootemup. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 20:36 KOFgokuon wrote:
On August 13 2013 15:22 haduken wrote:
What is the most optimal way to shutdown Huskar in pubs?

I used to pick TA and completely pwn him in mid, but looks like recent buff give him more immune?


Physical damage, heroes with pure damage (tinker is amazing as is timber saw), diffusal to remove ghost scepter if he goes that route

I have found that the best way to deal with Huskar is to kill him a lot.

Well, I'll be damned.

...

As said previously, pure damage, heavily right clickers that are hard for him to focus (PL as the game goes on), diffusal blade, Pure Damage are good against him.

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Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
August 13 2013 17:30 GMT
#11289
On August 14 2013 02:03 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 01:34 Shootemup. wrote:
On August 13 2013 20:36 KOFgokuon wrote:
On August 13 2013 15:22 haduken wrote:
What is the most optimal way to shutdown Huskar in pubs?

I used to pick TA and completely pwn him in mid, but looks like recent buff give him more immune?


Physical damage, heroes with pure damage (tinker is amazing as is timber saw), diffusal to remove ghost scepter if he goes that route

I have found that the best way to deal with Huskar is to kill him a lot.

Well, I'll be damned.

...

As said previously, pure damage, heavily right clickers that are hard for him to focus (PL as the game goes on), diffusal blade, Pure Damage are good against him.


That does sound dumb, but my point was that beating him in lane is a lot harder now. I specifically mentioned this because the guy asking the question said his old way to deal with Huskar was to outlane him with TA.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 13 2013 17:40 GMT
#11290
Blademail is still very legit vs huskar. The damage return bypasses magic resistance (although it is prevented by magic immunity).
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Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
August 13 2013 18:09 GMT
#11291
can you firefly out of cogs
Coil1
Profile Joined January 2013
128 Posts
August 13 2013 18:12 GMT
#11292
On August 14 2013 03:09 Cool Cat wrote:
can you firefly out of cogs

Yes, you will take cogs damage however.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
August 13 2013 18:12 GMT
#11293
You can firefly out, but it will still bump you.
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
August 13 2013 18:14 GMT
#11294
why doesn't egg taste like chicken
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 13 2013 18:22 GMT
#11295
On August 14 2013 03:14 Cool Cat wrote:
why doesn't egg taste like chicken

[14:18:47] <Qbek> "same reason sperm doesn't taste like babies"

There you go.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 13 2013 18:24 GMT
#11296
Stop advertising IRC Dubzex :x
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 13 2013 18:32 GMT
#11297
So basically Qbek eats babies?
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jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
August 13 2013 19:07 GMT
#11298
Is physical damage from spells reduced by armor?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 13 2013 19:08 GMT
#11299
On August 14 2013 04:07 jrkirby wrote:
Is physical damage from spells reduced by armor?

Armor applies to physical damage no matter the source.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 13 2013 19:09 GMT
#11300
it's vlad's offering a good snowball item?
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