Simple Questions, Simple Answers - Page 558

On August 08 2013 16:30 hooahah wrote:
does silence work on passives? namely, SkelKing's and Abaddon's ulties

On August 08 2013 02:12 Tuco wrote:
How are you supposed to take advantage of your support pulling for you as a safe lane carry? I don't know what the best thing to do is when there's a full wave at the tower. Am I supposed to run all the way back to the Tier 2 and last hit from there or tank the creeps or what?

On August 08 2013 18:31 hooahah wrote:
supports need brown boots too

On August 08 2013 21:01 nojok wrote:

Suddenly a massive supports strike occured! They're asking for equal farm and XP with carries! No ward has been placed since the start of the game, every last hit is a tough contest between supports and carries. supports are abusing their courier dominance, there are stories of butterflies dropped in woods. It's the crisis!

On August 08 2013 20:52 Baggage wrote:
In 2v2 situations, whether you pull or not depends mostly on whether your lane presence is helping to secure your carry safety/farm. If you find your 2v2 to be inferior, and that your presence really doesn't do much, then you are better off pulling/roaming because you'll just be sucking up valuable exp and achieving nothing. E.g. 2 ranged vs 2 melee. When you do double pull, you should try to inform your carry that you are pulling as this should allow them to respond appropriately. Most melee heroes can comfortably tank creeps with a stout shield and last hit under the tower, but for ranged carries the damage taken can be significantly higher. To avoid such a situation, they need to auto attack down a couple creeps to mitigate that damage preemptively.

On August 08 2013 22:14 BurningSera wrote:


Is not always true, the 2 opponents will just farm that lonely carry (even at the tower) once they see you showed up on the map that you are away from your baby carry.

or at least, your carry wont have any decent farm (maybe even none) because the 2 opponents will shut him down fiercely, so you better have a backup plan for that (owning other lane hard/prepare some other resources for your carry to get back his farm).

On August 09 2013 01:11 Baggage wrote:


It's one thing to have an enemy lane that is incredibly oppressive and another two have a dual lane so much stronger that they can outright dive a carry at lvl 2-3 (provided the carry maintains a reasonably healthy hp lvl). Every situation needs to be evaluated different, and ultimately as a support you just have to make the judgment call on whether the lane can be turned around or not.

In the cases where your lane "support" amounts to your carry getting to live, but being unable to achieve much else, then it's simply better to pursue a goal that can amount to a meaningful advantage, whether it's securing mid lane runes or applying pressure, or trying to maximize exp gains via pulling. A support's function isn't solely to secure early game farm for the carry, but secure an advantageous position for your team as a whole in the early game. So sure, you pulling or roaming elsewhere may result in an awful laning phase for your carry, but if you manage to turn around the other lanes then your team will be able to secure the midgame space/farm for your farm deprived, but not exactly exp deprived carry.

On August 09 2013 02:52 Kmatt wrote:
I see that clearly solo mid bottle->Shadowblade dragonknight is the new way to go. I just don't see why it works. I actually watched a game last night in-client where I set the camera to follow DK all game long and the only things I could see justifying the shadow blade was

-Surprising Puck, which still requires half a team's worth of follow-up disable and is not only very situational but could be done by pretty much anyone with a blink

-Running under wards, we have smoke for that

-Escaping fights, which Armlet does a decent job of as well for a cheaper price and better item buildup

-Some attack speed+damage, which armlet outclasses it every day of the week

Can someone who knows what's going on explain what I'm not seeing? People are shadowblading religiously and I can't for the life of me figure out why.

On August 09 2013 03:01 Baggage wrote:
Dragon Knight is a tanky hero with reasonable damage output and a relatively short cd, long duration stun (with reasonable range when in dragon form).

Shadowblade is an item that excels at pushing and solo killing. As a result, if your team is at an advantageous position or if you've had an excellent mid development (sub 20 mins treads, bottle, (possibly) casual bracer, wand and shadowblade), then Shadowblade allows you to isolate enemy heroes and secure map control. Shadowblade forces a response of sentries/grouping up that allows you to starve enemy supports and create solo pickoffs. Therefore, the opposing team faces the difficult decision of either grouping up or risk being isolated and picked off. In response to the grouping up, Shadowblade also allows you to split push with the invisibility.

Essentially, Shadowblade creates space for your whole team whilst slowly starving the enemy team of farm. Then by the time they group up to try and take fights, you'll have a bkb/ac ready so they can't even face you in headlong engagements anyways.

If your team is behind however, then Shadowblade's midgame impact is significantly reduced, since the opposing supports will be able to afford detection, and you don't have the map control to utilize it's solo killing power.