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StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
August 09 2013 14:05 GMT
#11181
On August 09 2013 22:52 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 21:55 Qbek wrote:
only horizontal dislocation breaks meld, vertical doesn't (torrent, impale etc)

Forcestaff does not break any channeling spell so I guess it does not, same for cogs.



except meld is not channeling. Not sure about force staff though but I think it breaks meld. And I am 100% sure that cogs break meld
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
August 09 2013 14:57 GMT
#11182
anyone know if fissure breaks meld? i dont remember ever seeing fissure break meld but technically it should
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 15:19:28
August 09 2013 15:02 GMT
#11183
On August 09 2013 23:57 evilfatsh1t wrote:
anyone know if fissure breaks meld? i dont remember ever seeing fissure break meld but technically it should

It theoretically should only if TA is pushed by it, i'll test it in a few mins

EDIT: It doesn't

Edit2: forcestaff does break meld
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 09 2013 15:55 GMT
#11184
It's a known bug with certain spells that move the target based on temporary terrain (I know Cogs are affected, and I believe Sprout is as well). The trigger for Meld is supposed to just check your actual position, regardless of HOW you moved, but it looks like in DotA 2 it cares about what caused the movement.
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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
August 09 2013 22:57 GMT
#11185
Should I be putting more points in stats on am if im expecting more harass like vs dual range?
Is 1-1-1-1 and the rest in stats ok at level 7-8?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
August 09 2013 23:21 GMT
#11186
Early points in stats is fine, even good, on am. Especially under the conditions you mentioned.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 09 2013 23:39 GMT
#11187
Stats are actually geared toward farming, since Mana Break and Spell Shield do not affect your farming speed, and more Blink ranks don't help you farm until Battle Fury is finished.

Max Spell Shield first is actually the *most* resilient to harass, but it depends heavily on what the lane you're against is.
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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
August 10 2013 00:11 GMT
#11188
On August 10 2013 08:39 TheYango wrote:
Stats are actually geared toward farming, since Mana Break and Spell Shield do not affect your farming speed, and more Blink ranks don't help you farm until Battle Fury is finished.

Max Spell Shield first is actually the *most* resilient to harass, but it depends heavily on what the lane you're against is.


i was up against a clinkz and rubick i believe
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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
August 10 2013 10:32 GMT
#11189
How do you deal with sniper early game? I'm new to dota but have moba experience, and it seems very hard to deal with this guy in lane, especially in mid (I've played versus him in a 2v2 lane and that's not so bad because you can threaten to kill him). When I play as sniper or against him, I see a ton of effort being put on harassing with those enormous range autos. I just feel I can't CSS versus him very well (evn as a ranged hero) because I his strong harass. What can you do (especially early) to avoid getting super out farmed and stay (at least) even with him?
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 10 2013 11:01 GMT
#11190
On August 10 2013 19:32 Arisen wrote:
How do you deal with sniper early game? I'm new to dota but have moba experience, and it seems very hard to deal with this guy in lane, especially in mid (I've played versus him in a 2v2 lane and that's not so bad because you can threaten to kill him). When I play as sniper or against him, I see a ton of effort being put on harassing with those enormous range autos. I just feel I can't CSS versus him very well (evn as a ranged hero) because I his strong harass. What can you do (especially early) to avoid getting super out farmed and stay (at least) even with him?

Many heroes can outright threaten to kill sniper even in mid.
If you play a weak mid like drow vs. sniper, though, I don't think you have many chances for that.
Just stand far back as ranged if you can't kill him. Most heroes have much higher and more reliable damage than sniper early on, so they have a decent chance to outlasthit sniper(you can never guarantee to outlasthit sniper with how good sniper's animation is).
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
August 10 2013 12:34 GMT
#11191
On August 10 2013 19:32 Arisen wrote:
How do you deal with sniper early game? I'm new to dota but have moba experience, and it seems very hard to deal with this guy in lane, especially in mid (I've played versus him in a 2v2 lane and that's not so bad because you can threaten to kill him). When I play as sniper or against him, I see a ton of effort being put on harassing with those enormous range autos. I just feel I can't CSS versus him very well (evn as a ranged hero) because I his strong harass. What can you do (especially early) to avoid getting super out farmed and stay (at least) even with him?


I'd honestly say have your support smoke gank him if he pushes up in lane at all. Also, heroes like Spirit Breaker and Ancient Apparition that have long range spells can help you out as well.
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Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
August 10 2013 12:55 GMT
#11192
I've got an absolute ton of unopened chests of varying types but I have no intention of paying for keys and thus they are remaining unopened. Are the chests worth anything to anyone or does it make more sense to just delete them as space requires?
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 10 2013 13:02 GMT
#11193
On August 10 2013 21:55 Phyre wrote:
I've got an absolute ton of unopened chests of varying types but I have no intention of paying for keys and thus they are remaining unopened. Are the chests worth anything to anyone or does it make more sense to just delete them as space requires?

I think you can sell the international chests for something like 3:1 rr.
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
August 10 2013 13:36 GMT
#11194
On August 10 2013 22:02 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 21:55 Phyre wrote:
I've got an absolute ton of unopened chests of varying types but I have no intention of paying for keys and thus they are remaining unopened. Are the chests worth anything to anyone or does it make more sense to just delete them as space requires?

I think you can sell the international chests for something like 3:1 rr.

What is "rr"?
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
Rodberd
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany531 Posts
August 10 2013 13:43 GMT
#11195
RR = random rare, so the buyer just picks a rare items from his stash and offers it to you for 3 chests.
Ooooh, look at it go
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
August 10 2013 14:17 GMT
#11196
Oh okay, cool. Thanks!
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
August 10 2013 15:41 GMT
#11197
On August 10 2013 19:32 Arisen wrote:
How do you deal with sniper early game? I'm new to dota but have moba experience, and it seems very hard to deal with this guy in lane, especially in mid (I've played versus him in a 2v2 lane and that's not so bad because you can threaten to kill him). When I play as sniper or against him, I see a ton of effort being put on harassing with those enormous range autos. I just feel I can't CSS versus him very well (evn as a ranged hero) because I his strong harass. What can you do (especially early) to avoid getting super out farmed and stay (at least) even with him?

If you're a melee hero get a stout shield.

Sniper's starting damage is really low so try to deny creeps as much as possible.

Runes spawn every 2 minutes starting from minute zero. If you're mid, try to blast down the creep wave that spawns at 15 seconds before the rune as soon as possible. Sniper has no AoE so he can't kill the creep wave as fast as most mids, meaning you should be able to control most runes, or at least force Sniper to miss last hits trying to contest them. This should give you an advantage in lane and an advantage ganking sidelanes.

Sniper's one of the easiest heroes to kill at low levels (poor health pool, poor movement speed), so try to kill him or try to heckle your supports into ganking mid, provided you guys have enough stun / nuke potential.

Generally heroes with good mobility and burst damage work well. Queen of pain or puck can almost always threaten a kill on him. TA does really well too because of the shield and massive base damage advantage.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 10 2013 16:16 GMT
#11198
The most important thing is that Sniper has one of the lowest base damages in the game. Virtually every hero that goes up against him in lane has at least a 20 damage advantage against him. You have to take advantage of this and deny creeps as aggressively as possible. Sniper becomes a lot more manageable if you keep his levels down--again his base damage is low, so if you maintain a level/item advantage, his harass starts to become less of a problem. If you let him easily get level 5 without denying many creeps, then he will start to be a pain.
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mRpolite
Profile Joined March 2012
189 Posts
August 10 2013 17:32 GMT
#11199
On August 10 2013 19:32 Arisen wrote:
How do you deal with sniper early game? I'm new to dota but have moba experience, and it seems very hard to deal with this guy in lane, especially in mid (I've played versus him in a 2v2 lane and that's not so bad because you can threaten to kill him). When I play as sniper or against him, I see a ton of effort being put on harassing with those enormous range autos. I just feel I can't CSS versus him very well (evn as a ranged hero) because I his strong harass. What can you do (especially early) to avoid getting super out farmed and stay (at least) even with him?

well, usually, heroes who keep harassing you die easily to burst damage
meaning if he is constantly chipping you away, man up and hit him as hard as you can
they are the bullies in the lane, he is going to keep taking your lunch money everyday till you hit him in the nuts, hard
sc_a.M
Profile Joined April 2013
420 Posts
August 10 2013 18:32 GMT
#11200
On August 11 2013 02:32 mRpolite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 19:32 Arisen wrote:
How do you deal with sniper early game? I'm new to dota but have moba experience, and it seems very hard to deal with this guy in lane, especially in mid (I've played versus him in a 2v2 lane and that's not so bad because you can threaten to kill him). When I play as sniper or against him, I see a ton of effort being put on harassing with those enormous range autos. I just feel I can't CSS versus him very well (evn as a ranged hero) because I his strong harass. What can you do (especially early) to avoid getting super out farmed and stay (at least) even with him?

well, usually, heroes who keep harassing you die easily to burst damage
meaning if he is constantly chipping you away, man up and hit him as hard as you can
they are the bullies in the lane, he is going to keep taking your lunch money everyday till you hit him in the nuts, hard

hell yeah, take qop and jump and scream at that dwarf fucker!
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