What an embarrassment of a team honestly. EU invites were a fucking charity and yet they still managed to fail to get an invite. Getting 3rd place with teams like Alliance and Liquid above you is a fucking joke. These are objectively bad teams with players who have barely accomplished anything in their entire careers and here are TI winners with their 3rd place placements while those other teams take the top spot.

Nigma kept w33 on their roster despite the fact they failed to qualify for both the last Major/Minor from the year before and they couldn't even beat Secret for pretty much an entire year. If you can't even be the best in your region, what good is your roster as a top team? The competition gets even tougher when you leave your region so if something is not working in your region, it's time to make changes. During the last DPC league, they had a new roster and they refused to bootcamp even though important Major slots and DPC points were on the line. Where is the professionalism on this team? Nigma is run like a fucking joke and their results are a fucking joke. The only team run as unprofessionally as Nigma is OG and that bar is so obscenely low that it just makes Nigma look worse.

Kuro used to be much more hard working than this but after he won TI, he relaxed and now he's running one of the laziest teams in Dota. Does this guy seriously need to watch everything fall apart around him in order for him to figure out that he needs to get his shit together? He has a highly skilled team that's mostly been with him since 2016/2017 and instead of fighting to keep it, he does everything in his power to sabotage it. Dota isn't a family, it's not a circle of friendship, and it's not a fucking charity. If you fail to meet your obligations, expect to lose the things that you took for granted. Competition is cutthroat and if you want to live in some fantasy where your team is "family", you need to the results to keep that delusion alive for both yourself and the fans. Nigma is on the brink on total collapse and that all could've been prevented if this team took their careers seriously and didn't lose to fucking Alliance and Liquid.

What results has this team achieved in the past two years? 3rd in their region? A year of getting dumpstered by Secret? Winning a fucking Minor? Look at Nigma's results lately and tell me how often top rosters stay together with these results. Even if they manage to qualify for TI, there is no positive way to spin that. They never should've been in the qualifiers in the first place.

MintberryCrunchs

Germany462 Posts

June 12 2021 13:13 GMT

#424

Not gonna lie, i was really looking forward for the juuto mald! xD

hunter_x

Germany2762 Posts

June 12 2021 15:50 GMT

#425

I mean they played pretty bad to be honest, but come on juuto, your rant is way over the top....these guys still tried their best and you call them an embarrassment? You think they didnt want to win and compete at TI? Maybe they will never reach that TI 7 level again, if thats the case, you gotta accept that as well. Competition is tough and you cant always stay on top. dont forget old Liquid was one of the most consistent teams of all time....

juuto

809 Posts

June 12 2021 16:03 GMT

#426

On June 13 2021 00:50 hunter_x wrote:
I mean they played pretty bad to be honest, but come on juuto, your rant is way over the top....these guys still tried their best and you call them an embarrassment? You think they didnt want to win and compete at TI? Maybe they will never reach that TI 7 level again, if thats the case, you gotta accept that as well. Competition is tough and you cant always stay on top. dont forget old Liquid was one of the most consistent teams of all time....

They didn't bootcamp for the last league and they kept w33 on their roster even though they failed to qualify for events last season. They only try their best when it's too late.

TI invites this year were not a tough competition at all. They were practically charity invites.

Muffloe

Sweden6061 Posts

June 13 2021 10:26 GMT

#427

On June 12 2021 20:28 juuto wrote:
What an embarrassment of a team honestly. EU invites were a fucking charity and yet they still managed to fail to get an invite. Getting 3rd place with teams like Alliance and Liquid above you is a fucking joke. These are objectively bad teams with players who have barely accomplished anything in their entire careers and here are TI winners with their 3rd place placements while those other teams take the top spot.

Bruh

Geisterkarle

Germany3257 Posts

June 13 2021 10:38 GMT

#428

Maybe if you are in a region without 10 other S-Rank teams...
I think the DPC-Points for league play are too high! If we want to find out which is the best team in the world, competing against the world should be worth more and so Majors would be more important!

But that aside and searching for "answers", maybe all the games were finally too much Nigma and they got tired. (at least GH yawned against EG

). Their teamfights didn't seem to be on-par with their groupstage-level!
On the other hand, because we talked about them playing fast and direct and they switched that up... after their win against VP I thought, that is good, because they showed another side! But maybe it was, that they were "afraid" that these drafts fail!? You need a good timing to win with those high-tempo drafts and if you miss them, you are done!

derElbe

Germany571 Posts

June 13 2021 10:45 GMT

#429

This is getting scary. I hope the quals will go well!
Thumps up for a good run with a slighty disappointing ending.

Good job still. Stars Aligned

KalWarkov

Germany4126 Posts

June 13 2021 11:55 GMT

#430

I knew they wouldn't qualify this major after the LGD loss.

however, i'm very confident in them breezing through closed qualifiers.

jack_knife

Germany343 Posts

June 13 2021 17:41 GMT

#431

Nigma did every well in this tournament, they will make it to TI with no problem.

SFDuality

United States1318 Posts

June 16 2021 18:19 GMT

#432

A brief moment of brilliance, followed by disappointment after disappointment. That's the story of this team. The 0-2 against Vikin.gg is... concerning, for Nigma's odds of making it through regional qualifiers.

juuto

809 Posts

June 17 2021 15:30 GMT

#433

Well, their performance during this ESL tournament isn't giving anybody much confidence that they'll qualify for TI.

Archeon

3275 Posts

June 21 2021 07:37 GMT

#434

Might be just me, but I don't give a lot on ESL. It doesn't matter for TI at all and there might be a patch before TI, so I doubt most teams are practicing hardcore atm, unless they were extremely disappointed with their major result.

Rufus Dupres

Germany1071 Posts

July 05 2021 08:32 GMT

#435

Qualifiers incoming...except of Kuro, all are currently grinding games(or at least nothing is showing on Dota 2 Pro Tracker).

Does anybody know if they are at a bootcamp? If they make it past Hellbear Smashers, OG/Vikin.GG are waiting in the 2nd round. Most likely it will be OG, so putting them into the lower bracket would be a great relief.

Rufus Dupres

Germany1071 Posts

July 07 2021 10:17 GMT

#436

Oof...can only get better. Terrible draft with a zero stun line-up except of ravage. Questionable deaths all over around on the cores. Io feels like a trap pick for them. Give GH something to shine on and not a bloody healbot.

Geisterkarle

Germany3257 Posts

July 07 2021 12:21 GMT

#437

Hei, they had Gyro-Missle as a second stun too!

Yeah, a little wonky. But they got the job done. But have to step up their game for the upcoming teams!

Rufus Dupres

Germany1071 Posts

July 07 2021 12:33 GMT

#438

Yes, they make it through but felt like most likely more of the misplays/misitemization from HellbearSmashers than their own game. Not going BKB on Storm in Game 2 sealt the game and in Game 3 DK jumped in too often without using his BKB and getting chainstunned after his initial stun. Gilgir played really well on Hoodwink and Nigma seemed quite lost against it, otherwise I cannot explain how is it possible to get two/three heroes with bushwhack nearly every time. They should really consider to ban it if they are playing against OG,(subject they make it past Vikin.GG), Topson and Saksa are playing a pretty mean Hoodwink.