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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On May 10 2020 00:42 Firebolt145 wrote: Well, it didn't last very long until they sold it.Secret was them running an organisation and look where they are. I don't think you can just put the blame on that. | ||
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laa.kiroskirin
Thailand2 Posts
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
On May 29 2020 12:47 laa.kiroskirin wrote: It's possible that TI10 motivates them so this ESL looking good so far. We dont even know when TI10 will take place, so I doubt same is the reason. They did not even practice for this tournament, but looks like they are slowly getting back into shape. The coming days will show how good they are as the top contenders of their group are coming with Vikin.GG, Liquid and Secret on the final day. | ||
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juuto
809 Posts
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kerpal
United Kingdom2695 Posts
i wouldn't put it in the same category as an AM pick or something. | ||
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
Anyhow, going 6:1 without having scrimmed before is a very good showing after their lackluster results in the past tournaments. VP.P can be beaten if Kuro is not getting to creative with his drafts and pick heroes which are in the meta and suiting their playstyle. | ||
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juuto
809 Posts
For a team that's lazy as hell, I guess they're doing okay, but I wish we weren't dealing with a team plagued by an endless amount of complacency and laziness. | ||
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
ppd mentioned it already during drafting that Nigma tried to replace the Beastmaster with the Lycan which will not work as Lycan has no bkb-piercing stun, inferior vision game, no safe wave clear with Axes. Feels like the old Puppey habit to try beating the opponents strongest strategy with the same draft and not make it easier for yourself by adjusting your bans. Definitely winnable series... So...Ah shit, (lower bracket) here we go again. | ||
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Anamorph
236 Posts
Can not understand the troll ban instead. | ||
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
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MintberryCrunchs
Germany462 Posts
I do really appreciate the change in drafting during that series (didnt watch much nigma, maybe they played like this before?). Giving more space and priority to Mind Control and making him an integral part of their strategy while shifting Wee even more towards a space creating/sacrificial mid player seems like a very promising approach and the right and much needed change. I was also pleasantly surprised by Wee's Invoker. I think they all played well and had a lot of synergy and the loss was mostly due to a tactical/drafting mistake that tipped the favor towards VPP | ||
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juuto
809 Posts
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
Hope you had a look today on Kuro´s plays if not watch at least game 3 of their series against Liquid...a lot of game changing swaps/plays from this "ridicolously low skilled" player. Everybody is looking bad against Puppey currently... Surviving the elimination game for now which gives us at least two more series. | ||
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juuto
809 Posts
On June 10 2020 02:36 Rufus Dupres wrote: Although I agree that they are not hard trying to win anything, I do not agree that Kuro is a low skiled player, you are staying in the T1-scene for over a decade not without a reason. Hope you had a look today on Kuro´s plays if not watch at least game 3 of their series against Liquid...a lot of game changing swaps/plays from this "ridicolously low skilled" player. Everybody is looking bad against Puppey currently... Surviving the elimination game for now which gives us at least two more series. While other pos 5 players are fighting for top spots on the leaderboards, Kuro is nowhere near them. He's known for not playing much pubs and now the team is admitting multiple times to not scrimming. So when does he even play the game outside of officials? We'd not have any games to judge them on if they actually had to earn their spots in these tournaments instead of relying on their popularity and a pandemic to get them free spots into events. T1 players should be held to a high standard and Kuro is probably one of the lowest MMR players currently on a pro team at that level. He 100% deserves the criticism. | ||
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
On June 11 2020 01:17 juuto wrote: We'd not have any games to judge them on if they actually had to earn their spots in these tournaments instead of relying on their popularity and a pandemic to get them free spots into events. T1 players should be held to a high standard and Kuro is probably one of the lowest MMR players currently on a pro team at that level. He 100% deserves the criticism. This is purely theoretical, it may also be that they would just show up in this time of the year as they did in the past three years. We just dont know how they would be playing without the COVID-19 restrictions. The lack of scrimming/bootcamping is causing them the same troubles like it does for OG. In addition, 3 of Nigma are playing on a ping of abt. 120, not ideal as well. Today again, his plays were not the reason why they lost to Secret, the loss in game 1 lies purely on the cores with not going for BKB except w33 and getting caught out of position multiple times and being blown up right at the start of a fight. They are slowly improving, basically winning two laning stages against Secret is already something many teams have not been capable of doing. | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
There is a term for when you do the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome, but i wont state it here out of respect. | ||
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
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juuto
809 Posts
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
Also: An era came to an end! Before that game the last time Nigma lost with w33po was group stages TI9 vs Secret! That is quite a streak for that hero! | ||
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midou
Bulgaria1168 Posts
Why did they replace Matu with W33 when they pick viper/pugna mid all the time... | ||
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