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Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
April 27 2020 13:44 GMT
#221
Absolute rollercoaster again at least with the better end this time...inconsistency at it´s best. This team is making me crazy...
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
April 28 2020 13:04 GMT
#222
Pure disappointment again. Is W33 even watching the mini map? How often can you be out of position? If you are not having buyback and have a hero with a huge range to cast his spells and attacks why are you standing at the entrance of your base when nobody from them is showing on the map?!

Except of GH and to an extent Miracle who is also having a lot of questionable deaths lately, the whole team feels completely out of shape without any coordination at all. Euling a target which is inside pit of malice? Cmon, are you kidding me? As if they are playing with one hand tied at their back.

You have to be sadistic to somehow endure watching any of their games.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
derElbe
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany571 Posts
May 01 2020 10:00 GMT
#223
it's gonna be fine,
the boys are just going to clean the floor with the opponents again.
Let's go! StarsAlign!
Hoejja - Bisu - Leenock - TLO
maddraks
Profile Joined March 2016
Bulgaria6 Posts
May 01 2020 21:26 GMT
#224
Maybe the absolute miss-coordination is due to them playing not in a team house, but from their homes. Do you guys know if this is actually the case. I've heard kky's played from Egypt (at least for the ELS matches). Is this still the case? Because of the current Covid situation I can imagine that it's hard to manage it.

But on the other hand look what OG are doing.. with ping.. with stand-ins. It's great to be OG fan right now. I wish I can feel those Liquid vibes from 1-2 years ago for our guys from Nigma. I miss them sooo much. And for this new organisation the start wasn't great (like most of us have wished) especially knowing what the boys are capable of...
Team Liquid are doing it!
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 02 2020 03:06 GMT
#225
the only T3 T1 team in the world.
honestly, it feels like fresh wind is missing.

would love for kuro to just tell his taemmates to goof around in pubs and learn 2-3 new heroes each.
widen the hero pool, play new styles. in a patch where you don't lose leads so early nigma should honestly be dominating.
but the fire is missing.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
May 03 2020 13:02 GMT
#226
I don't really like this patch - pretty much no games were good, i am not talking about nigma, it is non stop fighting, and the one that starts winning just stomps. Brawling used to be fun, it looks exactly like TI4 - just go go go 20 mins games gg. Sorry but thats not my kind of meta.
Savatage
Profile Joined February 2016
Italy182 Posts
May 05 2020 16:06 GMT
#227
for a team that has dominated events on multiple patch with multiple styles seeing this devolution is hurting, it's like seeing Barcelona soccer team relegated into second spanish division and losing vs Albacete :-(
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
May 05 2020 16:24 GMT
#228
it's like they're not playing dota and don't want to relearn how to play dota.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
May 06 2020 07:20 GMT
#229
Maybe they have trouble adjusting to this league system.
Major/Minor/TI is:
Bootcamp and tournament. Maybe 3-4 weeks of full power! Then, relax!
Here it is just a constant flow of single games over weeeeks! There is basically no "highpoint" wher you could focus.

I will be interested how this Bounty Hunt thing will be for Nigma. I wouldn't be surprised if they loose a lot there too, but get most of the Bounties!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-06 15:05:32
May 06 2020 15:04 GMT
#230
Thist tournament just proves what we talked about in the past year almost, since this team betrayed their fans and left Liquid. Caring only for TI leads to this -
They have absoluteley no knowledge of the patch. Maybe they should take dota like a job and actually play it for 8 hours a day.
They are averaging 10-12 kills / game. They are being humiliated by every team, and they deserved every humiliation they got as after being outdrafted and outplayed by every proffesional player in europe you can do nothing but take it.

No matter how good you are if you don't work hard you will get f*cked in the place that never sees light. Every time.






Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-06 15:57:55
May 06 2020 15:55 GMT
#231
I dont know. After what I have just seen with their kill on Matu and gging out immediately, it really feels like they give a shit about this tournament at all and still have fun which I find somehow strange. Isnt it depressing when you are getting bullied on in every game? If it is true that they are playing for the fans as said by Kuro than they should show up better or otherwise just deny a tournament invite. I am feeling offended by this play honestly and would have preferred it that they are not participating at all if they are not taken it seriously or give everything they got. The way they are losing is just awful as if they are playing with one hand tied at their back or using their toes only.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3271 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-06 17:13:47
May 06 2020 17:13 GMT
#232
They've always been extremely inconsistent and always needed time to adapt to a new meta. Recent patches brought a lot of changes so I'm not surprised they struggle.
They also don't play a lot of meta heroes, GH's Kotl is pretty much the only one I'd consider good right now.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
May 07 2020 03:50 GMT
#233
There is more Nigma games, there is a tie breaker between them and Seed later today. So they actually can end hope in division 2.
GO OG
PastaProphet
Profile Joined May 2020
1 Post
May 07 2020 17:58 GMT
#234
On May 07 2020 00:04 NInoff wrote:
Thist tournament just proves what we talked about in the past year almost, since this team betrayed their fans and left Liquid. Caring only for TI leads to this -









Had to reddit-register just to address this, as I see it so commonly when people discuss Nigma. The guys on Nigma are (not quite as much past few months) a tier 1 team, who have had good chances at taking most tournaments they've involved themselves in. If you're part of an organisation, you are contracted to perform in certain events, participate with sponsors, and give your team a certain cut (in most cases). After years of this, who can honestly blame the guys for wanting to give it a shot on their own?

It's not a "betraying their fans" to want to start off on their own. Particularly for someone in the game as long as Kuro, hardly surprising he wanted to run his own team for a change.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
May 09 2020 15:41 GMT
#235
On May 08 2020 02:58 PastaProphet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2020 00:04 NInoff wrote:
Thist tournament just proves what we talked about in the past year almost, since this team betrayed their fans and left Liquid. Caring only for TI leads to this -









Had to reddit-register just to address this, as I see it so commonly when people discuss Nigma. The guys on Nigma are (not quite as much past few months) a tier 1 team, who have had good chances at taking most tournaments they've involved themselves in. If you're part of an organisation, you are contracted to perform in certain events, participate with sponsors, and give your team a certain cut (in most cases). After years of this, who can honestly blame the guys for wanting to give it a shot on their own?

It's not a "betraying their fans" to want to start off on their own. Particularly for someone in the game as long as Kuro, hardly surprising he wanted to run his own team for a change.


Well im a fan and i feel betrayed. And i am not the only one. After living and dreaming with the boys for so many years, past year i feel more for Alliance and current NiP and ofcourse Liquid than i do for Nigma.

What does runing a org mean? Some freedom, more responsibilities ( That don't help you to focus on the game) and most importantly - More money. So if you do something for money you are not doing it for the fun of it, and for the fans, therefore you lose your fans respect and they feel betrayed. Those are not just words man - just watch any games they played in the last 2 months..- at least last year there used to be some fire against OG or VP or Secret, now its just shallow and empty dota...
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
May 09 2020 15:42 GMT
#236
Secret was them running an organisation and look where they are. I don't think you can just put the blame on that.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 10 2020 06:11 GMT
#237
What's with kuro and his reluctance to draft stuns.
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
May 14 2020 13:52 GMT
#238
So...tomorrow against OG in the "Gamers Without Borders" - Charity Tournament. Hope this time, they will be more of a challenge to OG than the last times. Wondering if Topson will participate as well, heard rumours that he is finally back from Far East.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-15 14:04:26
May 15 2020 14:03 GMT
#239
On May 14 2020 22:52 Rufus Dupres wrote:
So...tomorrow against OG in the "Gamers Without Borders" - Charity Tournament. Hope this time, they will be more of a challenge to OG than the last times. Wondering if Topson will participate as well, heard rumours that he is finally back from Far East.

Yep, first team that picks an in your face lineup and goes farming for 15 mins Its like picking medusa and starts diving Tier 3 towers 6 mins in. With this lineup Nigma should be pushing non stop after necro 1 hits but nope.
Seems like they are the only team in europe that doesn't understand the patch at all.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 15 2020 17:11 GMT
#240
Well they were more of a challenge but they still lost which is to be expected from them
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