OG Discussion - Page 14

On June 09 2016 20:57 Atoissen wrote:
With Miracle being 45 - 0 in the playoffs... Can we now just start to call him God? :-D
What a player, and what a team... OG is on fire atm.

On June 09 2016 21:07 DucK- wrote:


Think you're the only one not calling him that yet.

On June 09 2016 22:10 Racket wrote:

I still don't call him a god either.
The problem with that is he will never be guilty even if his level drops and the shitstorm with always be above anyone else, like it already happened with n0tail.

He plays at a great level and that is only because the other four allow him to do so. This is what you call A TEAM, if any of those four would be a weak link, he wouldn't have the chance to perform like he does.

Great performance guys! Keep it up and be the first to have two Majors.

On June 09 2016 22:20 DucK- wrote:


His team creates him the space, but I think he makes his own as well. The decision makings are on another level.

On June 09 2016 22:10 Racket wrote:

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He plays at a great level and that is only because the other four allow him to do so.
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On June 09 2016 22:48 wims80 wrote:

I dont know if that's true, I mean, he has over 9k solo queue mmr points after all. It seems to me that Miracle is perfectly able to play at a great level all by himself

On June 09 2016 23:52 pellejohnson wrote:
I think everyone on OG does a great job but there is little doubt to the claim that Mircale is probably the best dota 2 player right now when it comes to both mechanics but also game sense, it's a treat to watch him play most of the time and I can't help but keep thinking how hard I would rage if I would have him on my opposing team.

On June 10 2016 00:19 hariooo wrote:
Lol NOTAIL and fly should be thankful as hell for miracle. They wouldn't win without him.

Meanwhile miracle probably carries elevates any current t2 team to major winning level

On June 09 2016 23:51 Racket wrote:

He can put his 9000k into motion thanks to his four teammates, before this patch came out Miracle was just another 8500k+ player out there (because a lot of players did catch up) and OG was losing to the likes of NaVi.

On June 10 2016 00:40 haxhax wrote:


OG didn't exist before Miracle joined. He was a founding member.

On June 10 2016 00:19 hariooo wrote:
Lol NOTAIL and fly should be thankful as hell for miracle. They wouldn't win without him.

Meanwhile miracle probably carries elevates any current t2 team to major winning level

On June 10 2016 00:40 haxhax wrote:


OG didn't exist before Miracle joined. He was a founding member.

On June 10 2016 01:08 spudde123 wrote:
Miracle is fantastic but you can't get anywhere alone. In quite a few of OG's games Miracle doesn't even need to do much because the other 4 are doing the heavy lifting while Miracle just farms with no pressure on himself. Though definitely Miracle has had a bunch of games in his time in OG where he turns a close game in OG's favor, and I have a hard time remembering a game where Miracle has been a big factor in his team losing the game with his plays. I'm sure it has happened at some point but anyway point being that it isn't all that common.

On June 10 2016 01:10 Pacifist wrote:
Not saying this is what Racket is arguing exactly, but the general argument that OG is only doing well because of the patch loses steam when it's used for 2/3 of the past majors.

On June 09 2016 23:52 pellejohnson wrote:
I think everyone on OG does a great job but there is little doubt to the claim that Mircale is probably the best dota 2 player right now when it comes to both mechanics but also game sense, it's a treat to watch him play most of the time and I can't help but keep thinking how hard I would rage if I would have him on my opposing team.

On June 10 2016 01:19 Racket wrote:

I am just saying lets praise the five as they all function extremely well together. I have not seen a lot of games where every OG member dies stupidly and Miracle saves the day.

I have seen him carry, pull his weight, do his job, etc, but him singlehandedly carrying the other four/two while they only did mistakes is out of the question, never/almost never happened.

The patch mention was only because as OG won the Major Miracle became the best player in the world even if he was just a rising star two days before, weeks later the new patch came out and OG began to lose relevance, they didn't play as well as before and, oh lucky coincidence, every hero Miracle was a god on fell out of the meta, but of course the weak link was n0tail.
Now we get a new patch and OG begins to gain relevance and demonstrate they are A TEAM and once again Miracle is the god and everyone else is just a shadow waiting to become the weak link.

What can you expect when most people think they themselves can only carry a game and you are the one losing it, just the same, the carry is the only carrying and the other are the ones to blame.