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fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
January 06 2015 11:40 GMT
#301
On January 06 2015 12:43 Elyvilon wrote:
This is really cool. I realize I'm getting greedy here, but can you tell who was saying what?

Hard to tell with the casters being so loud.

Mostly the comments not related to the disucssion (i.e. the suggestions about potm, jugg, invoker) is FY, and comments about MVP playstyle also. He also made the comment about troll vs phoenix.

Black didn't really say anything. Mostly just said yes to several suggestions. Sometimes he interjects with a sentence or two but it's hard to make out what's he's saying over everyone else.

iceiceice's comments: ember, worries about void/tide, suggestion about TB + VS. From what I've seen, he is the one that drives the discussion during the draft (most talkative as well).

I actually couldn't tell the difference between super and fenrir's voice, which is weird because they usually have quite distinctive voices...I think most of the remaining lines were super though.

I also caught a few new lines:

VG were asking themselves if they're fine with giving warlock to MVP (in the second stage of banning).

FY expresses his dislike on dealing with viper (right before viper ban)

Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 23 2015 20:45 GMT
#302
Chinese netizens saying that DAC will be Black's last tournament with the team.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2tf7ml/sgamer_rumor_of_the_day_dac_will_be_blacks_last/
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
January 23 2015 21:08 GMT
#303
On January 24 2015 05:45 Daralii wrote:
Chinese netizens saying that DAC will be Black's last tournament with the team.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2tf7ml/sgamer_rumor_of_the_day_dac_will_be_blacks_last/

interesting
FTD
cbk486
Profile Joined July 2014
154 Posts
January 23 2015 21:39 GMT
#304
That's sad Why? (performance in Chinese tournaments?)

I wonder who they'll get to replace him?
borobudur
Profile Joined December 2014
16 Posts
January 23 2015 21:52 GMT
#305
On January 24 2015 06:39 cbk486 wrote:
That's sad Why? (performance in Chinese tournaments?)

I wonder who they'll get to replace him?


I wouldn't put much of VG's recent failures on Black. fy just seem to be playing reckless.

I remember reading that the chinese fans want Zyf from EHOME. I'm sure there are a lot more local talent they could choose.

Hopefully Black will land on his feet - and on a good team.
shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
January 23 2015 23:08 GMT
#306
At least Black^ will be left with more value after being on one of the best teams currently. Some of their ideas and strategies must rub off on him and he has tons of experience in both west and eastern scenes.

He might not end up on a dominant team as VG, but he will at least be considered a tier 1 player to hang with the big boys.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-23 23:47:55
January 23 2015 23:47 GMT
#307
Omg this is great - Teamliquid Team - Black, Demon, Moonmeader +2, make it happen Naz!

Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Churrass
Profile Joined October 2013
573 Posts
January 24 2015 00:46 GMT
#308
On January 24 2015 08:47 LemOn wrote:
Omg this is great - Teamliquid Team - Black, Demon, Moonmeader +2, make it happen Naz!



disband in 2 weeks
8dada8
Profile Joined December 2014
Canada9 Posts
January 24 2015 01:39 GMT
#309
Black never received respect he deserves in VG.

Any replacement, if not Rabbit as a rumor I heard, is a failure.
look at it go!
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 01:47:32
January 24 2015 01:47 GMT
#310
Hmm, maybe xiao8 going back to Newbee after DAC which will make Rabbit available?

I always liked Rabbit, and if Black is really leaving, he'd be my top pick to be VG's new carry. (Unless of course Burning decides to unretire for good and join VG?)
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
January 24 2015 02:58 GMT
#311
one of the rumors is that FY wants to play carry...
posting on liquid sites in current year
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
January 24 2015 03:03 GMT
#312
On January 24 2015 11:58 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
one of the rumors is that FY wants to play carry...


and they're looking for 4th pos players to play, since there are a lot more free 4th pos players around. possibly contacting lanm.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
January 24 2015 05:19 GMT
#313
Black said he will play good such that Vici will have no reason to kick him :D
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 11:04:06
January 24 2015 11:03 GMT
#314


rofl

#BLACKDOTA
this is a quote
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3791 Posts
January 24 2015 12:16 GMT
#315
On January 24 2015 20:03 goody153 wrote:
https://twitter.com/BlackDotA2/status/558851445164748800

rofl

#BLACKDOTA

We can be weird sometimes. I fail to see this as humorous if the rumor is true. If it was false from the beginning sure.
Considering how out of left field some shuffles were in the past 2 years I would be inclined to believe while the rumor is false these type of things must be playing in the minds of each individual player these days.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 24 2015 13:30 GMT
#316
On January 24 2015 10:39 8dada8 wrote:
Black never received respect he deserves in VG.

Any replacement, if not Rabbit as a rumor I heard, is a failure.

doubt rabbit will leave newbee
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 23:53:45
January 24 2015 23:47 GMT
#317
On January 24 2015 06:39 cbk486 wrote:
That's sad Why? (performance in Chinese tournaments?)

I wonder who they'll get to replace him?

To be honest from what I have read, the Chinese criticism against Black mostly concerns VG's ability to call the shots during (hypothetical) clutch situations, not anything specific, or anything that has happened so far. A large portion of the Chinese netizens still like the idea of Black on VG. In fact, this is reminiscent of the divide the DK dream team caused in the Chinese scene: half the people love them, the other half hates them. I suppose if some people already express concerns regarding ethinically chinese foreigners, you can only imagine what they think of a Westerner...

To be honest, the reception to his twitter message has been largely positive. Most of the negative comments discussing it are tongue in cheek copy pastas. On the other hand, a lot of praise for his attitude.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 24 2015 23:51 GMT
#318
Why they want to kick Black? He's a fuckin beast :o
The Real Power~
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
January 25 2015 00:04 GMT
#319
On January 25 2015 08:51 Zea! wrote:
Why they want to kick Black? He's a fuckin beast :o

Black's detractors think Sylar is still a better fit due to communication compatibility.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 25 2015 01:24 GMT
#320
On January 25 2015 08:47 fixed_point wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 06:39 cbk486 wrote:
That's sad Why? (performance in Chinese tournaments?)

I wonder who they'll get to replace him?

To be honest from what I have read, the Chinese criticism against Black mostly concerns VG's ability to call the shots during (hypothetical) clutch situations, not anything specific, or anything that has happened so far. A large portion of the Chinese netizens still like the idea of Black on VG. In fact, this is reminiscent of the divide the DK dream team caused in the Chinese scene: half the people love them, the other half hates them. I suppose if some people already express concerns regarding ethinically chinese foreigners, you can only imagine what they think of a Westerner...

To be honest, the reception to his twitter message has been largely positive. Most of the negative comments discussing it are tongue in cheek copy pastas. On the other hand, a lot of praise for his attitude.

in general chinese people actually like westerners quite a bit more than other Asians
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