EPTVici Gaming Discussion - Page 14
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Nomzter
Sweden2802 Posts
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ref4
2933 Posts
On December 08 2014 20:36 Nomzter wrote: dont even joke about that please :'( the curse of ic3 | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote: I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5. 1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is. 2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins. 3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence. 4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team. TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14. you forgot about 5. VG will win so hard and because they don't play the standard Chinese meta teams will not want to scrim them | ||
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Shergal
Argentina1191 Posts
By the end of TS2 their drafts did get more influenced by what Western teams were doing, that's true. We'll have to see when they start playing again on China. | ||
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goody153
44260 Posts
While all decent western team will destroy everything that is not VG and newbee. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote: I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5. 1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is. 2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins. 3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence. 4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team. TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14. We don't know if the chinese meta is "inferior" a common pitfall is to look at something you don't understand, and label it as inferior because you cannot comprehend it. until we see a good few matches with chinese team vs western teams, we cannot say which meta is better. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
i think we cant really say too much about the chinese meta right now. they just dont play many tournaments these days.. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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vndestiny
Singapore3454 Posts
On December 10 2014 13:36 DucK- wrote: Does anyone know which heroes black plays badly? ? LD. Though I'm not really sure when was the last time he playe it though. Black is good and extremely skilled, top 2 in the world atm imo but he's not as solid as I would like. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote: I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5. 1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is. 2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins. 3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence. 4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team. TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14. well i may as well go to sleep for the next year and wake up after ti5  | ||
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Moustache Cash Stash
United States222 Posts
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mutantmagnet
United States3791 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:14 Moustache Cash Stash wrote: So is brood mother a must ban against Vici in every game? Is iceiceice just really good with the hero or is she actually viable now, because I haven't really seen any other team play her (I think Universe played her once in the Summit 2). Brood has always been viable as a late pick. The difference between Iceiceice and everyone else is that he believes even when the enemy has more than 1 wave clearer he can still micro his spiderlings to avoid the damage. Considering how he 1v2 and still got kills in the offlane with DK it's safe to say there is also a player imbalance that can't be ignored. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
it's buyback tpboot. draft necrolyte vs Vici to ensure high winrate lol! | ||
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cbk486
154 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On December 15 2014 03:25 cbk486 wrote: What the hell was that shit in Starladder... word on the street is that some teams dont wanna go to the finals | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On December 15 2014 07:55 TRAP[yoo] wrote: word on the street is that some teams dont wanna go to the finals This may or may not have happened last SL | ||
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ref4
2933 Posts
On December 15 2014 23:53 Kupon3ss wrote: This may or may not have happened last SL if VG didn't want to go to SL XI they could've started throwing during the grp stage and save themselves the trouble? | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On December 15 2014 03:25 cbk486 wrote: What the hell was that shit in Starladder... apparently super was really sick and black was nursing an injured hand. not confirmed. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
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