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gulati
United States2241 Posts
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KoopaTroopino
Australia9 Posts
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BillGates
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
Only time will tell what happens in the next few months. | ||
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Greenstripe
United States164 Posts
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On December 27 2014 16:34 FiWiFaKi wrote: Navi are imo Top 4 EU+CIS+NA. EG, Secret, and C9 a level above, both they beat VP, Polar, and Empire when it matters. I think they have the talent to be on the top. Only time will tell what happens in the next few months. I don't see how you can make a case for them beating Polar when it matters when the winner of their game got to participate in tiebreaks and the loser is out. I think you can make a case for Navi as fifth best in the West(although I don't think it's correct), but I don't see how you can argue that, in their current form, they're better than VPP. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
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bluzi
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goody153
44240 Posts
And also while VPP has only one second place. They have beaten the big 3 of the west in series a couple of times. Compared to na'vi who can't even consistently win against tier 2 teams or other teams in the west below the big 3. I'd say there is a difference in level of opponents between them despite the result stating na'vi has more results to speak of. | ||
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MyrMindservant
695 Posts
Another issue, is current form. If I remember everything correctly, yesterday v1lat has said on stream that Na'Vi had not practiced properly for close to 3 weeks because Vanskor and Dendi had health issues. So while I agree that right now they are worse than VPP, Empire and maybe even VP, I think that they can improve considerably. Whether they will improve is another question though, a question of dedication and morale. As I've seen many times before, morale and confidence are extremely important in all kinds of competitions. And they have lost a lot recently, so their morale is probably quite low at the moment. | ||
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goody153
44240 Posts
Also C9 has good results even online when they have the most shittiest conditions as a team when it comes to playing online. With any server they have at least 1 or 2 players with shit ping. (2 in NA and 3 in EU ) | ||
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Racket
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On December 28 2014 06:37 Racket wrote: I liked it better when Dendi drafted and FNG was supporting, just before Goblak was hired. Also Team Secret went 11-4, being them one of the best two teams in the west. So I wouldn't really care that much about Navi going 9-6.... Yeah I thought that dynamic had promise. But ZG is a shit manager and, well, you get what we have here. Which is how he wants it. Well, he gets it. | ||
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MyrMindservant
695 Posts
On December 27 2014 21:34 goody153 wrote: Also C9 has good results even online when they have the most shittiest conditions as a team when it comes to playing online. With any server they have at least 1 or 2 players with shit ping. (2 in NA and 3 in EU ) You didn't quite understood what I was trying to tell. I didn't say that Na'Vi were playing shitty because it was online, but rather that it's wrong to judge the team based solely on online games. This is applicable to all teams, not just Na'Vi. Personally, I believe that they are in a really bad shape at the moment, but this is just their current form. I think that this team/lineup can be much better than what we have seen for far. That is, if they will be able to overcome their internal issues and regain the team spirit and confidence. Otherwise those mental issues might bury the team before it even has a chance to realize its potential. | ||
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drusalnik
Bulgaria133 Posts
On December 28 2014 16:24 MyrMindservant wrote: You didn't quite understood what I was trying to tell. I didn't say that Na'Vi were playing shitty because it was online, but rather that it's wrong to judge the team based solely on online games. This is applicable to all teams, not just Na'Vi. Personally, I believe that they are in a really bad shape at the moment, but this is just their current form. I think that this team/lineup can be much better than what we have seen for far. That is, if they will be able to overcome their internal issues and regain the team spirit and confidence. Otherwise those mental issues might bury the team before it even has a chance to realize its potential. I can't stop loling at people like you who still believe Na'Vi will overcome the problems they have. It is clear that they are not professional enough about that so they don't really care. Teams catch up to them Na'Vi cannot move forward they just have no mentality of a winning team at the moment. Dendi seems very washed up Funn1k was regarded one of the best players and the one with that does the least mistakes in high % of games yet both of them are struggling so much. Vanskor and Goblak just do not fit Na'Vi and XBOCT just needs to step down and retire. This team has no future i'm sorry it is sad since they are a very very big name probably the biggest CIS name out there but alas they are digging them selfs in to the ground. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
Dendi seems very washed up trololololol Can't take the rest of this post remotely seriously if that's what you think. | ||
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drusalnik
Bulgaria133 Posts
On December 29 2014 04:25 FHDH wrote: trololololol Can't take the rest of this post remotely seriously if that's what you think. Well he is regardless if your fanboy eyes want to see it or not. Hes been a shadow of hes former self for almost a year now and each day that passes he goes down even lower. Dendi is an individual that needs to be inspired to play to hes full potential and none of the players around him are capable of pushing hes buttons for the better. Na'Vi will disband in the very near future mark my words this team as it is now wont last till ti5. | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
On December 29 2014 04:25 FHDH wrote: trololololol Can't take the rest of this post remotely seriously if that's what you think. Dude, at this point just look at his history of posts and we should all just ignore him. I did~ Regardless, Dendi and Funn1k are the only bright spots for the team, even so Dendi has his derp moments. | ||
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drusalnik
Bulgaria133 Posts
On December 29 2014 06:09 Seraphic wrote: Dude, at this point just look at his history of posts and we should all just ignore him. I did~ Regardless, Dendi and Funn1k are the only bright spots for the team, even so Dendi has his derp moments. Hueeeee ignoring the problem isn't going to make it go away but be my guest mate. We will talk when Na'Vi fails to qualify to every single tournament they are not invited to, tough one has to wonder with recent results of the team do they even need to be invited, there are smaller teams doing way better then the huge organisation that is Na'Vi. And regardless if you mean the medicore play of both Dendi and Funn1k i agree they still have some light in them but it is fading away faster then you can say meow. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
Either way, I'm done talking to you. | ||
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