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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-22 14:45:17
November 22 2014 14:44 GMT
#961
CAnt wait for NaVi
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
November 22 2014 19:01 GMT
#962
Well.... as long as they go 1-1 against PR they should get 4th place.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-22 19:22:38
November 22 2014 19:21 GMT
#963
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-22 19:26:21
November 22 2014 19:26 GMT
#964
lol what the hell
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
November 24 2014 07:39 GMT
#965
Are there any games scheduled for VP.Polar (as I think fng is headed there) in the next few days!?
There can only be one Geisterkarle
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
November 24 2014 08:51 GMT
#966
On November 24 2014 16:39 Geisterkarle wrote:
Are there any games scheduled for VP.Polar (as I think fng is headed there) in the next few days!?

I know they qualified for Dreamhack but I don't know when that's happening.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-24 19:38:38
November 24 2014 19:38 GMT
#967
Versuta streams with Na'Vi branding. He is associated with Na'Vi when he streams, therefore he cannot simply act how he pleases. In addition to this if you work as a public personality your personal life can and will affect your work. Given these two combined this is a pretty plain situation where Versuta cannot simply fire up a stream with Na'Vi branding all over it and start raging at Dota players, no matter how entertaining some people might find it.


My problem with this whole situation is that they are inconsistent. They fired Versuta because there was a shitstorm on Reddit and they felt they had to act. However the players' behaviour on their personal streams is exactly the same yet no one got in trouble for that as far as I know. Like Xboct's or Funnik streams are (or rather were, I stopped watching them specifically for this reason) just neverending stream of profanities. This does not apply to Na'Vi in particular, such behaviour is all over the place.

Another problem is that even when raging on his personal stream, his comments on the issues that he brings up are spot on (such as the ineffective report system) and he indeed understands the game very well. When he is raging at someone for the way they play he always explains his reasoning very well even if he swears a ton. But I guess that doesn't count, and yelling "OMG FUCK THEM IN THE PUSSY" over and over again is somehow more acceptable.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 26 2014 01:21 GMT
#968

english subs available for this zerogravity interview about the squad, summit voting, navi.us, versuta.

unfortunately no juicey questions like "why choose xboct over kuro/puppey?"
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-26 01:53:46
November 26 2014 01:42 GMT
#969
On November 26 2014 10:21 lolnoty wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpaRbtURQw#t=31
english subs available for this zerogravity interview about the squad, summit voting, navi.us, versuta.

unfortunately no juicey questions like "why choose xboct over kuro/puppey?"

What's the deal with the Aegis? I thought that was like the Stanley cup. Do they make a new one every year?

[e] Really salient point there: expect a decision about Na'Vi US very soon. "On the next week."'

Also I really wish whoever translates these would learn the difference between "moral" and "morale."
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
November 26 2014 11:44 GMT
#970
Least ZG put his foot down by next February. To see improvement and back on top or more changes.

Na'Vi US on the other hand... o.O

Maybe ZG will pick up Secret
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
November 26 2014 14:07 GMT
#971
On November 26 2014 20:44 Seraphic wrote:
Least ZG put his foot down by next February. To see improvement and back on top or more changes.

Na'Vi US on the other hand... o.O

Maybe ZG will pick up Secret


That would be FUNNY! "Na'Vi.B"

I don't think so.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
November 26 2014 22:00 GMT
#972


What.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
November 26 2014 23:39 GMT
#973
On November 27 2014 07:00 FHDH wrote:
https://twitter.com/BTSGoDz/status/537724961796788225

What.

Maybe they have some publicity events on those days. If not, probably just declined. I kind of want to agree with the decision to not attend any events till they get some semblance of good consistent performance again.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 03:41:47
November 27 2014 03:39 GMT
#974
They have to be now... I mean ZG put them on the clock quite literally.

Now or never.

We hate seeing them not be on top. ZG wants more, fans wants more. Soo
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
November 27 2014 03:45 GMT
#975
Yeah I actually agree that not only could this be why they declined but with the decision itself if so. They definitely do not look good yet. If they went to TS2 they'd probably still look like shit ten days from now. So if they're using this time to get to work and figure out how to sail the ship under the new captain, good.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 27 2014 07:38 GMT
#976
On November 27 2014 12:39 Seraphic wrote:
They have to be now... I mean ZG put them on the clock quite literally.

Now or never.

We hate seeing them not be on top. ZG wants more, fans wants more. Soo


The thing about ZG's clock is that is he can't really do anything if they don't perform by the allotted time. Navi makes their money by appealing to the CIS base, and there's not much talent for navi to steal at this point in terms of captains/strategists.

CIS literally would not have ranked at all in TI4 if it weren't for puppey dragging xboct/dendi's non-practiced asses along with his equally questionable drafts. The CIS called for puppey/kuro's head, he left to make a better team, and Navi is actually in a position where there's no one to buy out at all in CIS to fix their problem. They can maybe buy 3/5 of empire or something.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
November 27 2014 08:13 GMT
#977
The team didn't practice as a team. As much as I am sick of XBOCT I don't think anyone on the team, including him, didn't practice. They just didn't work as a team. So not sure why you say that.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
November 27 2014 12:03 GMT
#978
On November 27 2014 16:38 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 12:39 Seraphic wrote:
They have to be now... I mean ZG put them on the clock quite literally.

Now or never.

We hate seeing them not be on top. ZG wants more, fans wants more. Soo


CIS literally would not have ranked at all in TI4 if it weren't for puppey dragging xboct/dendi's non-practiced asses along with his equally questionable drafts. The CIS called for puppey/kuro's head, he left to make a better team, and Navi is actually in a position where there's no one to buy out at all in CIS to fix their problem. They can maybe buy 3/5 of empire or something.

Anyone who watched games from pre-TI4 must remember that supports actions were very questionable. Even puppey agreed ("we need to figure out our movements blahblah"). So I wouldn't use such words as "dragging asses".

And 'cmon, dendi not practice? Thats something from another universe.
Everything is a remix.
MyrMindservant
Profile Joined October 2013
695 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 12:15:45
November 27 2014 12:14 GMT
#979
On November 27 2014 16:38 lolnoty wrote:
CIS literally would not have ranked at all in TI4 if it weren't for puppey dragging xboct/dendi's non-practiced asses along with his equally questionable drafts. The CIS called for puppey/kuro's head, he left to make a better team, and Navi is actually in a position where there's no one to buy out at all in CIS to fix their problem. They can maybe buy 3/5 of empire or something.

Everything we heard so far shows that Puppey wasn't practicing any more than Hvost. We have seen multiple videos from their bootcamps and some other indications that he spent more effort playing CS:GO than practicing Dota with his team. At the same time, we do know for sure that Dendi was practicing regularly and complained several times that he has to practice in matchmaking and not in scrims.

But what's most important is they did not practice as a team, like FHDH already said. So in the end blaming it all on any particular player(s) is silly and just shows your bias.
BoxeR, FanTaSy, Jaedong, Life | White-Ra | Moon || Na'Vi, Wings || ༼ᕤ $◡$ ༽ᕤ MIDAS HIM
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
November 27 2014 14:36 GMT
#980
Yea, let's not start this again. If this year was not a NaVi year and the next one is not a NaVi year either, as much as it hurts I am ok with that. I am a fan of football and I realized that your team will never be on top every year no matter what they do or who they change. Let's face reality, every player on the team is not what he used to be.

Anyhow, I hope they keep getting better, and if not I will just enjoy Dota, because I like the game no matter who is the best.
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