• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:36
CET 21:36
KST 05:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win02026 KungFu Cup Announcement5BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains17Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4
StarCraft 2
General
Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win GSL CK - New online series BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled
Tourneys
2026 KungFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] #2: Team Classic vs. Team Solar [GSL CK] #1: Team Maru vs. Team herO RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO
Tourneys
ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread Formula 1 Discussion General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2112 users

Na`Vi Discussion - Page 38

Forum Index > Dota 2 Player & Team Discussion
Post a Reply
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 269 Next
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-13 21:17:00
October 13 2014 21:08 GMT
#741
Well Dendi is streaming today so I guess it's all good.

Speaking of which he is playing techies time now. Should be entertaining.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
October 20 2014 07:46 GMT
#742
I dunno but I think Dendi's drafts have been very standard but solid. He's drafting heroes that fit Na'Vi's playstyle yet still are able in the meta (FNG I think caved in too much to personal preferences and ignored the meta too much)... If Na'Vi continue to practice and Dendi grows as a drafter, I think they might become a good enough team~ only good enough is a very subjective term :/
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
October 20 2014 15:23 GMT
#743
On October 20 2014 16:46 Bisu-Fan wrote:
I dunno but I think Dendi's drafts have been very standard but solid. He's drafting heroes that fit Na'Vi's playstyle yet still are able in the meta (FNG I think caved in too much to personal preferences and ignored the meta too much)... If Na'Vi continue to practice and Dendi grows as a drafter, I think they might become a good enough team~ only good enough is a very subjective term :/


I hope so, hope is the last we should lose.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
October 20 2014 16:02 GMT
#744
On October 20 2014 16:46 Bisu-Fan wrote:
I dunno but I think Dendi's drafts have been very standard but solid. He's drafting heroes that fit Na'Vi's playstyle yet still are able in the meta (FNG I think caved in too much to personal preferences and ignored the meta too much)... If Na'Vi continue to practice and Dendi grows as a drafter, I think they might become a good enough team~ only good enough is a very subjective term :/

How much has Dendi been drafting? I keep missing recent games. Certainly I have faith in his game knowledge, intelligence, and leadership to do it but those are only the ingredients to good drafting.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
October 20 2014 21:23 GMT
#745
On October 21 2014 01:02 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2014 16:46 Bisu-Fan wrote:
I dunno but I think Dendi's drafts have been very standard but solid. He's drafting heroes that fit Na'Vi's playstyle yet still are able in the meta (FNG I think caved in too much to personal preferences and ignored the meta too much)... If Na'Vi continue to practice and Dendi grows as a drafter, I think they might become a good enough team~ only good enough is a very subjective term :/

How much has Dendi been drafting? I keep missing recent games. Certainly I have faith in his game knowledge, intelligence, and leadership to do it but those are only the ingredients to good drafting.

He first drafted in ESL One G1 against Vici, which they lost. After that FNG drafted for 4 games (they went 2-2 the 2 losses going to Vici). Since then Dendi's drafted the past 7 games where they've gone 6-1 (the loss against Team Secret). The 6 victories have come against, Fnatic 3 times and PR 3 times... Sure it's not the best opposition, but W's are W's right?
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
October 20 2014 21:27 GMT
#746
Well that's good. I don't think this is something that comes naturally to Dendi but with the current roster, if he can learn quickly he is probably the only one capable of making creative drafts work. And if they're going to be competitive at a tier one level this year, it's going to be because their drafts got less CIS-stacky.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
October 20 2014 22:49 GMT
#747
If Dendi drafted for them vs PR in D2CL, he's decent. Except for that AA mid pick last game. That was hard to watch after the laning phase.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
October 21 2014 10:02 GMT
#748
I wouldn't be surprised if Navi is drafting more by committee than one person's decisions right now. FNG seemed put off by all the pressure he was under, so lifting some of that will help.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
October 21 2014 21:49 GMT
#749
On October 21 2014 07:49 EnumaAvalon wrote:
If Dendi drafted for them vs PR in D2CL, he's decent. Except for that AA mid pick last game. That was hard to watch after the laning phase.

Well AA mid used to be a thing and it's COMPLETELY against this meta, but it still worked its purpose of wrecking the early game. Ideally, they would have ended it right then, but 6.82 thinks otherwise they got the win eventually, but yeah~ that was very throwback-y
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
October 21 2014 22:44 GMT
#750
On October 22 2014 06:49 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 07:49 EnumaAvalon wrote:
If Dendi drafted for them vs PR in D2CL, he's decent. Except for that AA mid pick last game. That was hard to watch after the laning phase.

Well AA mid used to be a thing and it's COMPLETELY against this meta, but it still worked its purpose of wrecking the early game. Ideally, they would have ended it right then, but 6.82 thinks otherwise they got the win eventually, but yeah~ that was very throwback-y

I remember Dendi AA back in TI1.

Also, that game vs alliance was no fun!
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
October 21 2014 23:43 GMT
#751
What's next, Dendi back on Rubick mid?

...please?
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
October 22 2014 02:45 GMT
#752
On October 22 2014 08:43 FHDH wrote:
What's next, Dendi back on Rubick mid?

...please?

I just don't think it fits the meta anymore No more blink ravages/blink black holes. Mids now need to be great midgame heroes/pushers. Lanaya is a good fit actually, since she can shut down the enemy mid and great at killing midgame.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
October 22 2014 03:59 GMT
#753
On October 22 2014 11:45 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 08:43 FHDH wrote:
What's next, Dendi back on Rubick mid?

...please?

I just don't think it fits the meta anymore No more blink ravages/blink black holes. Mids now need to be great midgame heroes/pushers. Lanaya is a good fit actually, since she can shut down the enemy mid and great at killing midgame.

yeah curse Arteezy for changing the role of the mid... I think Dendi's found a decent enough balance between his style and the meta. He just needs a tempo mid than can become a semi carry... like storm spirit, lanaya, qop (maybe...), etc
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
October 22 2014 07:54 GMT
#754
As long as Dendi keeps improving his draft and the team grows stronger, I will be happy. We can't expect him to be a Tier1 drafter just because we want NaVi to win. It took Ppy some time to earn his title and it will also take Dendi some time to reach a level comparable to any other Tier1 drafter.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
October 22 2014 11:19 GMT
#755
On October 22 2014 16:54 Racket wrote:
As long as Dendi keeps improving his draft and the team grows stronger, I will be happy. We can't expect him to be a Tier1 drafter just because we want NaVi to win. It took Ppy some time to earn his title and it will also take Dendi some time to reach a level comparable to any other Tier1 drafter.

I agree, I hope he improves. I also hope he took notes when Puppey was godlike at drafting.

Still, SL lan finals should be interesting. They should make it out of their group above VP and Exacration
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
October 22 2014 12:44 GMT
#756
On October 22 2014 20:19 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 16:54 Racket wrote:
As long as Dendi keeps improving his draft and the team grows stronger, I will be happy. We can't expect him to be a Tier1 drafter just because we want NaVi to win. It took Ppy some time to earn his title and it will also take Dendi some time to reach a level comparable to any other Tier1 drafter.

I agree, I hope he improves. I also hope he took notes when Puppey was godlike at drafting.

Still, SL lan finals should be interesting. They should make it out of their group above VP and Exacration


Yes, I think that without NewBee and Vici out we have chances of going through group stage.
drusalnik
Profile Joined July 2014
Bulgaria133 Posts
October 22 2014 16:21 GMT
#757
On October 22 2014 21:44 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 20:19 EnumaAvalon wrote:
On October 22 2014 16:54 Racket wrote:
As long as Dendi keeps improving his draft and the team grows stronger, I will be happy. We can't expect him to be a Tier1 drafter just because we want NaVi to win. It took Ppy some time to earn his title and it will also take Dendi some time to reach a level comparable to any other Tier1 drafter.

I agree, I hope he improves. I also hope he took notes when Puppey was godlike at drafting.

Still, SL lan finals should be interesting. They should make it out of their group above VP and Exacration


Yes, I think that without NewBee and Vici out we have chances of going through group stage.


So in order for Na'Vi to advance there should be no tier1 teams in the event?
What has become of Na'Vi lately is just so pathetic .

I feel for their fans but then again there isn't a singe CIS team at the moment that can contest the likes of the China/EG/c9(when they don't trow).
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
October 22 2014 20:21 GMT
#758
On October 23 2014 01:21 drusalnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 21:44 Racket wrote:
On October 22 2014 20:19 EnumaAvalon wrote:
On October 22 2014 16:54 Racket wrote:
As long as Dendi keeps improving his draft and the team grows stronger, I will be happy. We can't expect him to be a Tier1 drafter just because we want NaVi to win. It took Ppy some time to earn his title and it will also take Dendi some time to reach a level comparable to any other Tier1 drafter.

I agree, I hope he improves. I also hope he took notes when Puppey was godlike at drafting.

Still, SL lan finals should be interesting. They should make it out of their group above VP and Exacration


Yes, I think that without NewBee and Vici out we have chances of going through group stage.


So in order for Na'Vi to advance there should be no tier1 teams in the event?
What has become of Na'Vi lately is just so pathetic .

I feel for their fans but then again there isn't a singe CIS team at the moment that can contest the likes of the China/EG/c9(when they don't trow).


Errrrmmmmhh, no. I just think that Na`Vi is not in a position where they can beat for sure Newbee and Secret.

What has become? I guess a new team.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 22 2014 20:47 GMT
#759
On October 22 2014 21:44 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2014 20:19 EnumaAvalon wrote:
On October 22 2014 16:54 Racket wrote:
As long as Dendi keeps improving his draft and the team grows stronger, I will be happy. We can't expect him to be a Tier1 drafter just because we want NaVi to win. It took Ppy some time to earn his title and it will also take Dendi some time to reach a level comparable to any other Tier1 drafter.

I agree, I hope he improves. I also hope he took notes when Puppey was godlike at drafting.

Still, SL lan finals should be interesting. They should make it out of their group above VP and Exacration


Yes, I think that without NewBee and Vici out we have chances of going through group stage.

Well, every team advances from the group stage
Liquipedia
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
October 23 2014 07:22 GMT
#760
On October 22 2014 16:54 Racket wrote:
As long as Dendi keeps improving his draft and the team grows stronger, I will be happy. We can't expect him to be a Tier1 drafter just because we want NaVi to win. It took Ppy some time to earn his title and it will also take Dendi some time to reach a level comparable to any other Tier1 drafter.

What do you mean it took Puppey time to earn his title? He was famous from dota1. He did really well even with no name teams.
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 269 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
17:00
#44
SteadfastSC549
TKL 410
IndyStarCraft 217
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 549
mouzHeroMarine 480
TKL 410
IndyStarCraft 217
elazer 151
UpATreeSC 115
JuggernautJason87
StarCraft: Brood War
sorry 73
Bonyth 45
NotJumperer 40
Nal_rA 21
Dota 2
monkeys_forever367
canceldota113
League of Legends
JimRising 524
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv5775
pashabiceps2415
fl0m1379
Other Games
summit1g5797
Grubby3613
Beastyqt762
ceh9329
ToD282
shahzam180
ArmadaUGS163
C9.Mang0131
KnowMe128
Livibee63
Trikslyr46
Mew2King39
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream458
Other Games
BasetradeTV200
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 207
• Reevou 5
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV76
League of Legends
• Scarra1331
• TFBlade1172
Other Games
• imaqtpie1238
• Shiphtur207
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Team League
15h 24m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 3h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 14h
OSC
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maru vs Zoun
Cure vs ByuN
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs MaxPax
Rogue vs TriGGeR
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-15
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.