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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
September 23 2017 12:22 GMT
#4701
I got called into work and can't watch NAVI vs VP.

Even if they lose, at least i want it to go 3 games, but...LET"S GO NAVI! TAKE BACK THE CIS THRONE!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
September 23 2017 13:52 GMT
#4702
On September 23 2017 21:22 the bear jew wrote:
I got called into work and can't watch NAVI vs VP.

Even if they lose, at least i want it to go 3 games, but...LET"S GO NAVI! TAKE BACK THE CIS THRONE!

Can't you have trackdota or something like that around?
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
September 23 2017 16:01 GMT
#4703
solid game 2... even when they were behind at points.. gogogo game 3
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-23 17:50:56
September 23 2017 16:52 GMT
#4704
I knew they were going to pick Alche. The guys still need time to make better decisions. To many wasted cooldowns on Alche and Ench early.
Sidenote: I hate Alche games as much as I hate Naga games. Oh my god such boring games.

Edit: I think the problem with Alche is that there is no downside when giving Aghs. If he were to lose a slot, of if it actually costed doubled to give it to someone, or maybe disable a slot of the one you give it to, I think it is too much for nothing. It is really pretty stupid how fast he farms and on top of that he can gift Aghs. I don't know, I like the idea of gifting Aghs but not the way it works now.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 23 2017 17:00 GMT
#4705
Yeah that was rough, Sonneiko is still inconsistent, but honestly Dendi getting rolled early game sealed it.
Get it by your hands...
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
September 23 2017 22:19 GMT
#4706
Well making progress, we just gotta ban alchemist, still good shot to qualify for dreamleague major. No shame in losing today to VP but we will beat them tomorrow for sure.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
September 23 2017 22:20 GMT
#4707
On September 23 2017 22:52 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2017 21:22 the bear jew wrote:
I got called into work and can't watch NAVI vs VP.

Even if they lose, at least i want it to go 3 games, but...LET"S GO NAVI! TAKE BACK THE CIS THRONE!

Can't you have trackdota or something like that around?


And not on my ancient phone.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 24 2017 17:09 GMT
#4708
On September 24 2017 07:19 the bear jew wrote:
Well making progress, we just gotta ban alchemist, still good shot to qualify for dreamleague major. No shame in losing today to VP but we will beat them tomorrow for sure.


Honestly I think that WD pick was worse given how Navi was playing their 5.
Get it by your hands...
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
September 26 2017 11:43 GMT
#4709
Those two were bad bad games.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
September 26 2017 20:27 GMT
#4710
Another pair of bad bad games. What the hell could be going on?
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3337 Posts
September 26 2017 20:42 GMT
#4711
rip i haven't watched either series but darn that's tough...
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_Elendil
Profile Joined July 2016
Italy192 Posts
September 26 2017 21:15 GMT
#4712
Horrible series this time. What happened?
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
September 27 2017 00:24 GMT
#4713
Jinx is real after their win streak was halted by VP.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
September 27 2017 01:08 GMT
#4714
every team plays well when they're on a roll ... it's the ability to recover from bad games that separate the like of EG from the rest of the herd...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-27 01:54:42
September 27 2017 01:49 GMT
#4715
On September 27 2017 09:24 DucK- wrote:
Jinx is real after their win streak was halted by VP.

Wonder if pressure got to them? And if Xboct can get them back into shape. Cause they won early game but keep making bad decisions and taking bad fights.

Not playing crisp like last week.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
September 27 2017 02:04 GMT
#4716
Let's not forget that several of their wins came from massive comebacks which probably shouldn't have happened, so its not like they're supposed to dominate the T2 cis teams. Hope they recover soon though.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-27 11:36:11
September 27 2017 10:52 GMT
#4717
On September 27 2017 11:04 DucK- wrote:
Let's not forget that several of their wins came from massive comebacks which probably shouldn't have happened, so its not like they're supposed to dominate the T2 cis teams. Hope they recover soon though.


I feel like those were earlier. I never thought they were so far ahead they should win all their matches pre 30 minutes. But they were displaying much better team movement and coordination last week and now it's gone.

Like they were taking advantage of opponents mistakes, not making their own outside of those couple memorable comebacks, they were just playing better and had better decision making independent of their opponents.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 27 2017 12:28 GMT
#4718
Feeling themselves too hard. They needed to sit on that lead for like 5 mins in game 2 of the spirit series and literally got 5 manned to death.
Get it by your hands...
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
October 01 2017 02:16 GMT
#4719
Ok, so we lost to Vega who ended up winning the qualifier. Right now after VP, it looks like Navi, Vega, and Empire are the 3 strongest CIS teams. Navi still has a decent chance of qualifying to Dreamleague Major, so 2 minor qualifications and one major would be a successful start to the season.

My question is this, what do you think they have to do to improve and push their way to the top?
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
October 01 2017 06:46 GMT
#4720
On October 01 2017 11:16 the bear jew wrote:
Ok, so we lost to Vega who ended up winning the qualifier. Right now after VP, it looks like Navi, Vega, and Empire are the 3 strongest CIS teams. Navi still has a decent chance of qualifying to Dreamleague Major, so 2 minor qualifications and one major would be a successful start to the season.

My question is this, what do you think they have to do to improve and push their way to the top?

- They have to learn how to play when they have gold advantage. So far they seem to play way better from behind. When they are ahead they get picked off or make silly moves (Dendi lost the 2nd game against Empire all by himself, he threw three times at least just by going in against chrono and not even killing a support).
- They have to stop forcing the split push so much, the other teams figured them out already. Gain some advantage out of it. Doing something unexpected from time to time. Forcing a retreat to stop a highground. All those things are good when you are behind or as a diversion, but doing them all the time gets easy to counter.
- Dendi has to learn how to play Alche or leave the mid lane for that specific occasion.
- Dendi has to get better at Tiny carry. He does really good with Tiny caster, but he sucks at Tiny carry.
- They gotta get in sync as a team, they lost it after they tilted. They played way better at the start of this roster.

There are some others points but I can't remember right now, its 8.40 in the morning of a sunday. I am happy to watch them play but it is really hard to see them try the same shit over and over and force something that is not working. I hope they don't lose heart. They can be way better, they just have to find the way.
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