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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6230 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-24 01:01:42
March 24 2016 00:57 GMT
#1641
I was pretty sure sumail/fear wouldn't leave.

If they get Zai for 3/4 they're in pretty good shape, but without him they'll have to either do a big role shuffle to shoehorn in a higher tier player or settle for someone much weaker, and both would hurt them badly.
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
March 24 2016 01:01 GMT
#1642
On March 24 2016 06:32 Danzo wrote:


Well so much for that.

I dunno, man.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
March 24 2016 03:26 GMT
#1643
I feel gutted. I love Universe but having to root for him on a team with rtz and EE is a bit much for me.

And it's almost fitting that ppd's business approach to kicking aui and picking up rtz right after their TI win ultimately has led to this; he said the hastiness of the decision was also to be courteous to aui in finding a new team, but if you're going to make calculated business decisions, this is truly the dog-eat-dog decision making on display a few days before major lock-ins.

Thanks rtz for fucking up my team by leaving, coming back and creating internal issues with a kid phenom that came out of nowhere and helped to secure TI, all the while winning nothing, and then leaving with arguably the best offlaner in the world. You'll probably shine and still be overrated, but mostly because of the players surrounding you, as usual.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
March 24 2016 07:22 GMT
#1644
deep down, I'm disappointed EG didn't get moo for offlane
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
March 24 2016 08:59 GMT
#1645


DC disband is legit, Bulba and Aui joining EG seem 90% likely now.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-24 11:49:17
March 24 2016 11:48 GMT
#1646
I actually think eg.demon would be good. Then get Mason or find a #4 and fear carry. I don't like aui #4.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
March 24 2016 12:20 GMT
#1647
i think

1. Fear
2. Suma1l
3. Resolut1on
4. Aui
5. Bulba

but the chances, im not sure about them.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
March 24 2016 13:24 GMT
#1648
On March 24 2016 21:20 Faruko wrote:
i think

1. Fear
2. Suma1l
3. Resolut1on
4. Aui
5. Bulba

but the chances, im not sure about them.


Ppd?
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
March 24 2016 13:41 GMT
#1649
On March 24 2016 20:48 DucK- wrote:
I actually think eg.demon would be good. Then get Mason or find a #4 and fear carry. I don't like aui #4.

TI winning #4 not good enough for the boys in blue?
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-24 14:30:33
March 24 2016 14:29 GMT
#1650
Not after how ppd kicked him
you need to click on personal level too
but dota players seem to be immature kids with so many issues coming up all the time
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
March 24 2016 14:36 GMT
#1651
As long as EG keep PPD, Fear, and Sumail, I feel confident that they'll do well. It's a rough patch, but then again, so was losing their 1 and 4 out of nowhere (to Secret as well, for what it's worth). We all know how that turned out.

Hell, this could even be a blessing in disguise. I've always been doubtful about how Sumail and RTZ would work together, and now they get to go back to something more fitting.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
March 24 2016 15:01 GMT
#1652
On March 24 2016 22:41 wims80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 20:48 DucK- wrote:
I actually think eg.demon would be good. Then get Mason or find a #4 and fear carry. I don't like aui #4.

TI winning #4 not good enough for the boys in blue?


No because while it was a ti winning member, his style of play limits eg alot. He needs farm to function well, and that means eg will often have to accommodate and secure him that space. He could fit though because suma1l can play a space creating style, but I just feel eg options are limited with aui
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
March 24 2016 15:08 GMT
#1653
Yeah, it totally sucks for EG having a player that can play Chen, Enchantress, Visage etc. Huge burden actually
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
March 24 2016 15:11 GMT
#1654
Fear can play Visage :3

But yeah Bulba to play IO and Aui ability to play Chen and Enchantress support style is pretty good. I hope it's that 5 with Zai as a sub and if they have a bad major, get Zai in and hardcore scrim to TI6 with him and get shit done. No reason why Bulba can't just get paid well and be EGs coach, guy is a very good talker in Dota imo.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
March 24 2016 15:50 GMT
#1655
On March 25 2016 00:01 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 22:41 wims80 wrote:
On March 24 2016 20:48 DucK- wrote:
I actually think eg.demon would be good. Then get Mason or find a #4 and fear carry. I don't like aui #4.

TI winning #4 not good enough for the boys in blue?


No because while it was a ti winning member, his style of play limits eg alot. He needs farm to function well, and that means eg will often have to accommodate and secure him that space. He could fit though because suma1l can play a space creating style, but I just feel eg options are limited with aui


Duck , are you feeling fine ? eg.demon?! mason??? , one is the most toxic guy in NA dota an both are not as good as Aui .... if you didn't notice #4 is farming as well as ever in this meta , with Night stalkers/ Chen/Ench/Enigma/BeastMaster/Doom you name it meta runs it (EG ran Enigma/BM/Visage for Fear a lot and they would've run Chen/Ench if they had the players).
This isn't real life anymore if ppl want demon and mason as cores on the team and think its an upgrade over Aui and Fear back to carry and getting an offlaner.

Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
March 24 2016 16:01 GMT
#1656
On March 24 2016 22:24 brinepumps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 21:20 Faruko wrote:
i think

1. Fear
2. Suma1l
3. Resolut1on
4. Aui
5. Bulba

but the chances, im not sure about them.


Ppd?


LMAO FORGOT ABOUT PPD

ok, bulba out and ppd in
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 24 2016 16:04 GMT
#1657
Based on tweets etc it seems fairly clear that Reso is a free agent which points to bulba in not reso.

The only meaningful question remaining is if Fear transitions back to Carry or if Aui stays on Carry.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-24 16:40:10
March 24 2016 16:32 GMT
#1658
On March 25 2016 00:50 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 00:01 DucK- wrote:
On March 24 2016 22:41 wims80 wrote:
On March 24 2016 20:48 DucK- wrote:
I actually think eg.demon would be good. Then get Mason or find a #4 and fear carry. I don't like aui #4.

TI winning #4 not good enough for the boys in blue?


No because while it was a ti winning member, his style of play limits eg alot. He needs farm to function well, and that means eg will often have to accommodate and secure him that space. He could fit though because suma1l can play a space creating style, but I just feel eg options are limited with aui


Duck , are you feeling fine ? eg.demon?! mason??? , one is the most toxic guy in NA dota an both are not as good as Aui .... if you didn't notice #4 is farming as well as ever in this meta , with Night stalkers/ Chen/Ench/Enigma/BeastMaster/Doom you name it meta runs it (EG ran Enigma/BM/Visage for Fear a lot and they would've run Chen/Ench if they had the players).
This isn't real life anymore if ppl want demon and mason as cores on the team and think its an upgrade over Aui and Fear back to carry and getting an offlaner.



Yes I'm perfectly fine.

Mason stood in for Fear in TI4 and did a pretty good job.

Demon is not a bad offlaner and hasn't really had a chance to show his skills since Liquid. I mean if you're going to consider Bulba who is meh, you might as well try Demon who excelled in Liquid. Demon was arguably the best Liquid player in TI4

I would take fear #4 over Aui any day. Aui outside of Visage cannot playmake at all and rely on farming items to make an impact. At least Fear can do shit as a normal support. Though that said, I can't think of any other #4 in NA that's better than Aui.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
March 24 2016 17:09 GMT
#1659
Bah, im so gutted by this whole event... Feeling my team is in shambles, and really afraid they gonna be mediocre again :-/ I really hope they can keep sumail, fear and ppd... the really bad thing about it all is the timing... if EG had 20 days to replace rtz and Uni, im kinda sure they would find some really good players, fitting the team and coming out good (just like last time Secret recruited 2 of our players).
But now... people mentioning names like bulba, demon, mason and even ritsu... im so gutted! Great boys (except ritsu ) indeed. would love to have bulba on the team as a coach or something, but as offlane... replacing Uni... Does not feel good.

Ill keep rooting for EG, and I can really see Sumail picking up the pace and actually getting motivated to get on the next level that I kinda feel he missed a bit after rtz joined.

Guess im not saying alott of usefull shit here, im just sad, and needed to type... letts see how this goes, im personally hoping for some pubstars instead of old "stars" that havent really accomplished anything.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
yotsuna
Profile Joined June 2011
Hong Kong186 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-24 17:12:51
March 24 2016 17:12 GMT
#1660
On March 25 2016 01:32 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 00:50 bluzi wrote:
On March 25 2016 00:01 DucK- wrote:
On March 24 2016 22:41 wims80 wrote:
On March 24 2016 20:48 DucK- wrote:
I actually think eg.demon would be good. Then get Mason or find a #4 and fear carry. I don't like aui #4.

TI winning #4 not good enough for the boys in blue?


No because while it was a ti winning member, his style of play limits eg alot. He needs farm to function well, and that means eg will often have to accommodate and secure him that space. He could fit though because suma1l can play a space creating style, but I just feel eg options are limited with aui


Duck , are you feeling fine ? eg.demon?! mason??? , one is the most toxic guy in NA dota an both are not as good as Aui .... if you didn't notice #4 is farming as well as ever in this meta , with Night stalkers/ Chen/Ench/Enigma/BeastMaster/Doom you name it meta runs it (EG ran Enigma/BM/Visage for Fear a lot and they would've run Chen/Ench if they had the players).
This isn't real life anymore if ppl want demon and mason as cores on the team and think its an upgrade over Aui and Fear back to carry and getting an offlaner.


I would take fear #4 over Aui any day. Aui outside of Visage cannot playmake at all and rely on farming items to make an impact. At least Fear can do shit as a normal support. Though that said, I can't think of any other #4 in NA that's better than Aui.


Good point, that is a worry not sure their 4 protect Aui midgame works anymore especially since DC tried and failed at it so badly Aui went back on carry.........but you never know what the new patch may bring and it's not like beggars can be choosers.
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