They looked a bit better against IG than in groups, hope they continue to improve. According to reddit they didn't have a full bootcamp due to visa issues for Abed and Ramzes

Sapaio

Denmark2037 Posts

November 19 2019 15:33 GMT

#4502

I have been impressed by the new editions so far. Ramzes can already both be lane dominator that goes ganking and makes space, or play the more CD based heroes like Tide or Enigma.
Abed seems to be very flexible to his role, can either be space maker or more utility or carry.
For me the problems seems like draft and some in game shot calling, hope it can improve with more time together, but feel the team had these problems in last edition as well.

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts

November 19 2019 20:19 GMT

#4503

Ok EG looked so good today holy shit.

Ramzessss, wow i did not think the move at the start was the best option or more that it was a big gamble, however seeing them today and the social media around this tournament that has come they are all together. Ramzes knowledge helping out in drafts quite clear too and his gameplay is so good its great to watch so far. Just very impressed with him, and of course everyone else is also playing well, just singling out Ramzess

Pontual

Brazil3038 Posts

November 20 2019 17:21 GMT

#4504

VG was the stronger team. That being said EG seems to have the same old problems imh.

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts

November 20 2019 21:39 GMT

#4505

Wasn't the best of series from EG but they still had win conditions there and are playing differently though, questionable to let VG have nightstalker game 3 though, very questionable.

theqat

United States2856 Posts

November 20 2019 22:53 GMT

#4506

I'm almost convinced they win that game if they ban NS. That hero is obscenely broken and every big play from VG turned on his abilities/timings

PoulsenB

Poland7710 Posts

November 22 2019 10:12 GMT

#4507

I don't see them beating Liquid unless they step up their game tbh

edit: they did step up, nice

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts

November 22 2019 20:20 GMT

#4508

Haha, EG bodied Liquid so hard that was nice to see. Two different styles of play as well, beautiful!

Gaial

United States313 Posts

November 23 2019 14:34 GMT

#4509

Doesn't look good when the top 4 teams at TI last year weren't even in the tournament

Atoissen

Norway1737 Posts

November 24 2019 20:41 GMT

#4510

Give them some time... They can already dominate anyone they play.
They just need more time and grind. I wish we won it, but I accept the effort, they are improving.

Edit:
PS: Tere is a new patch coming anyday now, this might change everything again, letts see how things go.

PoulsenB

Poland7710 Posts

November 25 2019 10:27 GMT

#4511

I hope they'll improve, but I'll remain sceptical of this roster (and EG in general) until they actually win a tournament.

theqat

United States2856 Posts

November 25 2019 18:17 GMT

#4512

First tournament with this lineup, no bootcamp, possible health issues (re: arteezy wearing the mask prior to one game), etc. etc.

As long as the team environment is good, there's a lot of room to do better. In particular they seemed to be on different pages in-game a number of times, with obvious bad results (from half-taken engagements especially). Maybe someone will emerge as the full-time shotcaller and fix all that

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts

November 25 2019 19:54 GMT

#4513

On November 23 2019 23:34 Gaial wrote:
Doesn't look good when the top 4 teams at TI last year weren't even in the tournament

This is and isn't a good measuring stick, even more so in Esports. With the amount of transfers and movement saying because x team were not there making it worse off is irrelevant. Nisha the new mid in a new role for Secret might struggle period, ex Liquid stack not even picking up anywhere right now who knows what they are doing, and they only looked good at TI last season. PSG.LGD always looked good but seem beatable always then outside that you get the completely unpredictable OG who again were woeful until literally 6 weeks before TI lol. Then add in other sports and just because you won last year does not mean you can win this year when other teams change and such.

I think its a good start to the season for them and now a new patch inc and hopefully they can improve and take the next one, but the goal is always TI unless they really do struggle in tournaments which i don't see happening on the basis of what we just saw.

Pontual

Brazil3038 Posts

November 25 2019 20:06 GMT

#4514

Ramzes, rtz and fly are pretty good in new patches. They pick up the early hot stuff quite easily. Excited to see them explore them changes

theqat

United States2856 Posts

December 02 2019 20:39 GMT

#4515

cr1t going god mode against NIP in these qualifiers

PoulsenB

Poland7710 Posts

December 05 2019 08:51 GMT

#4516

Dominating performances against NiP and FP, Major secured. They already look much more coherent than at the last Major, hopefully with a proper bootcamp they can patch up their weaknesses and figure out good strats.

PoulsenB

Poland7710 Posts

December 05 2019 15:49 GMT

#4517

I'll also add that while I loved watching the King play, I really enjoy watching Abed, he's so active on the map and does much less afk farming than Sumail, at least that's the impression I'm getting from the recent games.

theqat

United States2856 Posts

December 11 2019 20:36 GMT

#4518

I missed the series they lost to FP, but it still seems like the weak point is taking bad engagements 1-2 times per game that result in losses or 10-20 mins of extra chances for the other team.

Some of that is unavoidable but some should clearly be fixed over time.

Also EG is playing next week in the Singapore tournament. Group stage starts Dec 17!

PoulsenB

Poland7710 Posts

December 18 2019 12:48 GMT

#4519

Support Viper new meta xD