EPTEvil Geniuses Discussion - Page 106
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
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Racket
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HaXxorIzed
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common_cider
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How about 1. Fear/Resolution/Arteezy (Pedur already stabbed Secret/Puppey in the back, and forced them into the qualifiers. Since the knife is already in Puppey's back, why not turn it too?) 2. W33/Sufail/rtz 3. Universe 4. Zai 5. PPD Is EG tired of Fear's arm preventing quality practice? That's the main reason they would dump him. That and Zai is available. EG maximum carnage build 1. Reso (screw suns fan) 2. RTZ/W33 (how much does pedur hate puppey?) 3. Universe 4. Zai 5. PPD (stab puppey in the back, then turn the knife with rtz) I perfer: 1. Fear 2. W33 3. Uni 4. Zai 5. PPD 1. Pedur already stabbed puppey in the back, no need to turn it. 2. Plus, you dismantle your main opponent in the open qualifiers 3. Stealing resolution would be a great Game of thrones move, but i <3 Fear. 4. RTZ riki'd Pedur twice, does Pedur want to risk 3rd time just for sadboys nostalgia | ||
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Bodhi
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zev318
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Belisarius
Australia6230 Posts
Poor Shaella I'm okay with this so long as we don't take rtz back as well. | ||
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common_cider
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On June 10 2016 07:18 zev318 wrote: i dont think there is anyway that we get the original sadboys back Fear is playing carry in pubs. Lots of evidence Zai is joining confirmed by empire, bone7, singsing. It looks like Mid player is open to sumail, w33, rtz. I would bet on w33 at this point, but wouldn't be surprised with rtz. It looks like we're one the mid player away from sad boys | ||
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zev318
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On June 10 2016 08:44 common_cider wrote: Fear is playing carry in pubs. Lots of evidence Zai is joining confirmed by empire, bone7, singsing. It looks like Mid player is open to sumail, w33, rtz. I would bet on w33 at this point, but wouldn't be surprised with rtz. It looks like we're one the mid player away from sad boys i dunno, if rtz came back a 2nd time? i think the chances of santa claus being real is higher. | ||
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common_cider
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On June 10 2016 09:19 zev318 wrote: i dunno, if rtz came back a 2nd time? i think the chances of santa claus being real is higher. T16 will likely be 20+ million $$$$. If ti was still 1 mil, you could easily hold a grudge. I still think it comes down to w33 rtz, sumail. Who ever is the best mid for the team, and a large chunk of 20 mil, they will take. the past doesn't matter for that much freakin' money. PPD, fear, zai, and universe will discuss it. Whoever they think it the best for team, they will recruit. | ||
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Belisarius
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idk you guys are really assuming a lot. Even if Zai is coming back, there's even less evidence that Sumail is on the chopping block. The weak link is obviously Aui at 1, and the simplest solution to that is Fear -> #1 and Aui/Zai -> #4. That would be more than sufficient now Universe is back on board. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
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Still, if it's SADBOYS w/ Sumail rather than Arteezy, that's a damn scary lineup. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
EG built the team around Suma1l mid for a reason, one because of his age and two his potential is crazy. Just hold off until Sunday/Monday when EG will confirm their new roster; 1. Fear 2. Suma1l 3. Universe 4. Zai 5. Ppd Nothing else! | ||
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Atoissen
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Ive seen nothing anywere about suma1l being in danger..? Also his tweet from yesterday: "God Bless" and changes his twitter pic from that afro american smoking the bong too himself in a EG shirt. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2wuSpKN.jpg) So yeah and don't think any EG fan hates on Suma1l was best player last few lans. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
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EG destroyed the lane, but Fy came with an unused, 1-off combo (Lifestealer + Slardar) Still, EG should have rolled through that game, but they kept getting picked off, giving up kills when they didn't need to. Their mid-game coordination was just completely off. While they only have 1 week to get ready for Open then Regional Qualifiers, and Zai & Sumail haven't played together, this is still the core parts of an EG squad that has 3 3rds & 1 TI win at Valve events in the last 5. And whatever you want to call DAC. (I personally just call it a Major & Valve event, but the Stats folks have gone with not calling it a Valve event.) If this team is focused, they're going to be damn scary. And it's not unprecedented to do this. LGD did this at TI3, though they only placed 9th/12th. But we probably shouldn't skip over the fact this pretty much destroys Secret's chance of making it to TI6. I don't see Secret getting through the Regional Qualifiers. Not with the way they've been playing. On June 10 2016 17:07 Atoissen wrote: Yeah, why are people talking about replacing mid? Ive seen nothing anywere about suma1l being in danger..? Also his tweet from yesterday: "God Bless" and changes his twitter pic from that afro american smoking the bong too himself in a EG shirt. He might have thought he was getting the boot, but Sumail showed up for Manila. He was dominating his lane most of the time, it's just they couldn't team-fight well enough in the mid-game to capitalize on it. | ||
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spudde123
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Taf the Ghost
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On June 10 2016 17:48 spudde123 wrote: Surely the point of the change is to change the way they've been playing. Though obviously Universe -> Bulba is not some big direct player upgrade, but we'll have to see what it does for the team as a whole. And if they don't make it to TI then they just didn't deserve it, not sure how bummed out the players even are about losing some chance at an invite if the expected placing would have been close to last. Partially with it all being so sudden, mapping out the considerations has taken a bit of time. Clearly, ppd & fear wouldn't do this if they didn't think they could win TI6 with the move. For as much as they had an automatic invite if they swapped Aui for Zai, the reality is that 4 of the 5 won the last TI and Zai has a 3rd & 8th, plus all of those wins with Secret. ppd & Zai actually played together for a really long time, so that coordination might just return right away. The other consideration, about Open Qualifiers, that I hadn't thought about until a little bit ago. We've been talking about Coaches & Analysts since at least Shanghai Major pretty heavily. (A bunch of teams suddenly figured out how to Ban properly and, look, they won stuff!) EG will be rolling with at least 1 coach and they could rope in a few more helpers as well. They can scout every team they're going to be facing in the Open Qualifier stage after the brackets are set. That's a pretty damn massive advantage. The only real detail is whether there is any NA invites to TI6. If Complexity gets an invite, then there's really only DC to be of any concern in the NA Region. | ||
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bluzi
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Fear #1 LETS GO , damn if no Fear i couldnt even stand this team , but with him on the team i cant stop cheering for them alot of the times...... DAMN YOU OLD MAN also Zai is an amazing player as well ! | ||
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HighTimeDotA
Canada1412 Posts
1 fear 2 sumail 3 uni 4 zai 5 ppd seems like they have a good chance for the first team to win a second/consecutive ti if they dont somehow get cheese in the qualifiers cuz bo1. | ||
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