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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2832 Posts
May 28 2018 21:58 GMT
#191561
I just don't understand it because if anyone had legal ownership over the "battle royale" concept then they would've been making a stink before now. Seeing as noone has come forth and made such a claim, pubg trying to lay claim to it just smacks of damage control because someone stole an idea better than you did.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 28 2018 22:03 GMT
#191562
Basically fortnite is worth so much money right now that you'd be insane not to sue if you thought you had a 5% chance to win even something trivial like 5% of revenue in damages.

It does do a good job of indicating what kind of company bluehole are and where their priorities lie with respect to gameplay and experience vs raw cash at all costs.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 28 2018 22:34 GMT
#191563
On May 29 2018 05:46 Unleashing wrote:
pubg is apparently actually going to take epic to court

lmao, how fucking dumb do you have to be to attempt this

just look at their development over the last year
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 28 2018 22:51 GMT
#191564
i mean, im not sure about arma's policy on this, but as far as i know, in dota2 and sc2 valve and blizzard both own the custom games/mods, so technically if anyone would own battle royale id say its arma :D
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
May 28 2018 22:54 GMT
#191565
On May 29 2018 07:51 teddyoojo wrote:
i mean, im not sure about arma's policy on this, but as far as i know, in dota2 and sc2 valve and blizzard both own the custom games/mods, so technically if anyone would own battle royale id say its arma :D

I'm not sure how it works but the guy who made arma BR is the guy behind pubg. I guess it would still probably belong to arma though and not him?
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 23:16:23
May 28 2018 22:58 GMT
#191566
You cant copyright gameplay mechanics in the US
thats why its perfectly legal to make and sell shitty wow/diablo/moba clones

Dunno if these companies are headquartered in the us tho
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 28 2018 22:59 GMT
#191567
i'm sure he didn't copyright the idea of battle royales in video games
or brs in general

it literally comes from a japanese novel in the 90s
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 23:04:28
May 28 2018 23:03 GMT
#191568
to be fair playerunknown literally made them what they are, he made the mod, made it good
hes basically icefrog of BR games

oh and i love the battle royale movie 9/10 movie

sidenote there was a wc3 custom battle royale game, was pretty fun not very popular but super long ago
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 23:05:18
May 28 2018 23:04 GMT
#191569
Yea I got started on Arma 2 BRs after the dayz mod died. Then Arma 3 BRs where it got really fun
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44300 Posts
May 28 2018 23:08 GMT
#191570
On May 29 2018 07:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
Basically fortnite is worth so much money right now that you'd be insane not to sue if you thought you had a 5% chance to win even something trivial like 5% of revenue in damages.

It does do a good job of indicating what kind of company bluehole are and where their priorities lie with respect to gameplay and experience vs raw cash at all costs.

I kinda feel a tinge of sadness that this is a thing but it does make sense

BTW a legit flame to pubg elitist is "katniss everdeen simulator" so far my friends got angry when I flamed them that
this is a quote
arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 23:52:28
May 28 2018 23:10 GMT
#191571
On May 29 2018 05:48 tehh4ck3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2018 05:43 arghyad1 wrote:
On May 29 2018 05:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
On May 29 2018 05:20 arghyad1 wrote:
Can anyone tell me how pro team regions are locked in Dota 2? I can't seem to find this anywhere.

For invites, it doesn't matter at all cuz valve just invites them. For the qualifiers, it's on a tournament by tournament basis. Faceit traditionally runs the TI qualifiers, so their rules for dota tournaments (which I believe were constructed in cooperation with valve for the TI stuff) are what govern it. They require 3/5 the players to be physically playing from a region, and they define regions (stuff like "what region is india in" etc). You can google their rules, I don't have a link handy.

With respect to your edit, it doesn't matter what happens at the start of the season. If you swapped players after the roster lock, then you are ineligible for invite and you just play whatever open qualifiers you qualify for.

In the case of EG, they can play NA or EU pretty easily by moving fly + s4 to their teamhouse in america, or moving sumail + arteezy to a bootcamp in EU for a few weeks (and crit)


Thanks for taking the effort. I am in office and all the google pages I can access have nothing on this that is helping.

So what about teams like Fnatic? They got 2 from SEA, 2 from NA & 1 from EU. Did they choose their region or are the players all SEA server players (well not all, but atleast 1 of the 3 non SEA players)?


if they get invited to the qualifiers, they play in whichever regional qualifiers valve invites them to (or they go play in opens in whichever region they are physically in)

last year planet odd got invited to the NA closed qualifiers despite the team moving to EU so they had to play in NA qualifiers


Hmm... Got it. Thanks.

But I feel if Dota 2 is to be taken seriously as a sport Valve now should put down guidelines regarding these scenarios.
The more you hurt me, The Stronger I become....
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
May 28 2018 23:22 GMT
#191572
Any confirm that EG.Fly is happening?

At this point nothing would surprise me anymore, with what little I follow of dota nowadays
Skol
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 23:23:33
May 28 2018 23:23 GMT
#191573
On May 29 2018 08:22 Emnjay808 wrote:
Any confirm that EG.Fly is happening?

At this point nothing would surprise me anymore, with what little I follow of dota nowadays

Dude there were full statements released from both teams hours ago

Fly and s4 to EG btw.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 28 2018 23:23 GMT
#191574
https://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/533914-s4-and-fly-join-eg
LITERALLY on the sidebar
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 28 2018 23:23 GMT
#191575
Yes it's confirm
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-28 23:51:49
May 28 2018 23:48 GMT
#191576
Goddamit I’m stupid thanks.

I literally just scroll past the “top” news when I browse TL now.


Edit: mobile browser still had the old TL cached which is why I didn’t see the new threads >_<
Skol
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 29 2018 01:49 GMT
#191577
rockets in 7
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
May 29 2018 01:58 GMT
#191578
On May 29 2018 10:49 andyrau wrote:
rockets in 7

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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 29 2018 02:01 GMT
#191579
On May 29 2018 10:58 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2018 10:49 andyrau wrote:
rockets in 7

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1001264701249064960

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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
May 29 2018 02:08 GMT
#191580
Fun fact: Gwen Stefani is older than Ted Cruz.
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