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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 10 2015 18:09 GMT
#15341
On March 11 2015 00:29 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 00:27 Kupon3ss wrote:
still better than fox news

Pretty much all network news sucks these days - i get my news from NPR these days.

EXCEPTS ITS THE FUCKING SPRING DONATION DRIVE FUCK MY LIFE

oh MY FUCING GOD DONDO DRIVES kill meeeeeeee

there's another NPR station that I barely get and they aren't having a donation drive right now by some miracle maybe john boner hasnt cut their funding ANYWAY I listen to it instead during the commercials like a radio pirate

did anyone else think 'guerilla radio' (rage again the machine but let's be real we all know it from tony hawk videogame) said something about pirate radio as a kid.

also I'm still convinced that the voices in the background of 'the circle of life' are chanting about a penguin on their bottom
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 10 2015 18:12 GMT
#15342
rofl PL didn't win that fucking d2cl game, that shit was thrown by NiP so unbelieveably hard
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 10 2015 18:14 GMT
#15343
Comeh, if you like NPR, you should listen to Pop Culture Happy hour. Its a pretty good show to find cool stuff you didn't know about. The hosts are awesome and will talk about anything, including terrible, terrible movies. Its pretty light compared to NPRs other shows.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 10 2015 18:14 GMT
#15344
w0w the best skill in the game had a major bug?

lame
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 10 2015 18:19 GMT
#15345
On March 11 2015 02:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
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On March 11 2015 02:47 Plansix wrote:
On March 11 2015 02:45 Acritter wrote:
On March 11 2015 02:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
yeah but if sing can make pl look good then how good must that hero actually be?

Compelling argument

Somewhere PPD and Puppy are watching and thinking "I can work with this". I would watch some Fear/Sumail PL and see how that works out. Though I don't think he would be great mid, but who knows.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1300118674
@comeh i think thats on u not the champion in question

universe was also trying to spam PL offlane in pubs for a while although I'm not convinced that PL is the offlane hero

but ya Fear has played PL a few times.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 18:22:36
March 10 2015 18:20 GMT
#15346
did p6 just confuse me with comeh oh my god hoW DO I delete this account and start over


I have been meaning to check out pop culture happy hour tho

also who charted from earwolf because earwolf podcasts are typically good
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 18:23:38
March 10 2015 18:22 GMT
#15347
On March 11 2015 03:07 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 03:03 Acritter wrote:
On March 11 2015 02:59 ahswtini wrote:
also everytime i hear about bad league coding, this event springs to mind:

http://www.esportsheaven.com/articles/view/5159/the-day-bullshit-came-to-the-lcs

I only skimmed but from the sound of it there was a game-losing bug that fucked over a single fight.

Wow. For comparison, the worst thing to happen to DOTA2 was that fuckery with fountain hooking in TI3 (which was not a bug, but which proved so fucking annoying that it was instantly banned).

the thing is, fountain hooking was known and not a random occurance either

in the case of that game-losing bug, well, imagine in dota there is a 1% chance that your ability doesnt cast instantly, but then casts 5 seconds later

Agreed on the fountain hooking thing, and it's the worst that's happened in DOTA2. Besides maybe Puppey pauses. So we can conclude that Puppey is the worst thing to happen to DOTA2.

But holy fuck that bug sounds awful, not even Bugstone had shit that bad.

-fancy eieiioeieo line of edit separation-

WHO'S READY FOR SOME MORE BURDEN
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 10 2015 18:23 GMT
#15348
On March 11 2015 03:20 eieio wrote:
did p6 just confuse me with comeh oh my god hoW DO I delete this account and start over


I have been meaning to check out pop culture happy hour tho

also who charted from earwolf because earwolf podcasts are typically good

I mean somehow you are staff and you still post the same quality posts I do.

Let that sit in your mind for awhile.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 10 2015 18:24 GMT
#15349
Nah, I was just listening to the podcast and was reminded the Comeh like NPR. Morph is blue, Lina is red.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44284 Posts
March 10 2015 18:24 GMT
#15350
On March 11 2015 03:19 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 02:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
On March 11 2015 02:47 Plansix wrote:
On March 11 2015 02:45 Acritter wrote:
On March 11 2015 02:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
yeah but if sing can make pl look good then how good must that hero actually be?

Compelling argument

Somewhere PPD and Puppy are watching and thinking "I can work with this". I would watch some Fear/Sumail PL and see how that works out. Though I don't think he would be great mid, but who knows.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1300118674
@comeh i think thats on u not the champion in question

universe was also trying to spam PL offlane in pubs for a while although I'm not convinced that PL is the offlane hero

but ya Fear has played PL a few times.

ice3x thinks he is a good offlane hero (from his ama)
this is a quote
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 18:29:12
March 10 2015 18:26 GMT
#15351
On March 11 2015 03:22 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 03:07 ahswtini wrote:
On March 11 2015 03:03 Acritter wrote:
On March 11 2015 02:59 ahswtini wrote:
also everytime i hear about bad league coding, this event springs to mind:

http://www.esportsheaven.com/articles/view/5159/the-day-bullshit-came-to-the-lcs

I only skimmed but from the sound of it there was a game-losing bug that fucked over a single fight.

Wow. For comparison, the worst thing to happen to DOTA2 was that fuckery with fountain hooking in TI3 (which was not a bug, but which proved so fucking annoying that it was instantly banned).

the thing is, fountain hooking was known and not a random occurance either

in the case of that game-losing bug, well, imagine in dota there is a 1% chance that your ability doesnt cast instantly, but then casts 5 seconds later

Agreed on the fountain hooking thing, and it's the worst that's happened in DOTA2. Besides maybe Puppey pauses. So we can conclude that Puppey is the worst thing to happen to DOTA2.

But holy fuck that bug sounds awful, not even Bugstone had shit that bad.

-fancy eieiioeieo line of edit separation-

WHO'S READY FOR SOME MORE BURDEN

I'm sure that dozens of pro games had to be paused for an average of at least 5 minutes because tangoes got stuck on your cursor, but DOTA FLAWLESS MASTERRACE, AM I RIGHT?

Also, there was a blog by Valve about pretty much the same issue happening in dota not too long ago. Am I just being Romanian?
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 18:28:27
March 10 2015 18:26 GMT
#15352
On March 11 2015 03:26 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 03:22 Acritter wrote:
On March 11 2015 03:07 ahswtini wrote:
On March 11 2015 03:03 Acritter wrote:
On March 11 2015 02:59 ahswtini wrote:
also everytime i hear about bad league coding, this event springs to mind:

http://www.esportsheaven.com/articles/view/5159/the-day-bullshit-came-to-the-lcs

I only skimmed but from the sound of it there was a game-losing bug that fucked over a single fight.

Wow. For comparison, the worst thing to happen to DOTA2 was that fuckery with fountain hooking in TI3 (which was not a bug, but which proved so fucking annoying that it was instantly banned).

the thing is, fountain hooking was known and not a random occurance either

in the case of that game-losing bug, well, imagine in dota there is a 1% chance that your ability doesnt cast instantly, but then casts 5 seconds later

Agreed on the fountain hooking thing, and it's the worst that's happened in DOTA2. Besides maybe Puppey pauses. So we can conclude that Puppey is the worst thing to happen to DOTA2.

But holy fuck that bug sounds awful, not even Bugstone had shit that bad.

-fancy eieiioeieo line of edit separation-

WHO'S READY FOR SOME MORE BURDEN

I'm sure that dozens of pro games had to be paused for an average of at least 5 minutes because tangoes got stuck on your cursor, but DOTA FLAWLESS MASTERRACE, AM I RIGHT?

That's a good point. I forgot about that one, because they fixed it years ago.

I don't think it cost anyone games, did it?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 10 2015 18:28 GMT
#15353
i've never had that happen ever
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 10 2015 18:29 GMT
#15354
the fountain hooking thing is arguably worse because it was an intentional abuse of game mechanics that occured in a game that actually mattered instead of some random regular season game that's completely shruggable
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
March 10 2015 18:29 GMT
#15355
On March 11 2015 03:26 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 03:26 dismiss wrote:
On March 11 2015 03:22 Acritter wrote:
On March 11 2015 03:07 ahswtini wrote:
On March 11 2015 03:03 Acritter wrote:
On March 11 2015 02:59 ahswtini wrote:
also everytime i hear about bad league coding, this event springs to mind:

http://www.esportsheaven.com/articles/view/5159/the-day-bullshit-came-to-the-lcs

I only skimmed but from the sound of it there was a game-losing bug that fucked over a single fight.

Wow. For comparison, the worst thing to happen to DOTA2 was that fuckery with fountain hooking in TI3 (which was not a bug, but which proved so fucking annoying that it was instantly banned).

the thing is, fountain hooking was known and not a random occurance either

in the case of that game-losing bug, well, imagine in dota there is a 1% chance that your ability doesnt cast instantly, but then casts 5 seconds later

Agreed on the fountain hooking thing, and it's the worst that's happened in DOTA2. Besides maybe Puppey pauses. So we can conclude that Puppey is the worst thing to happen to DOTA2.

But holy fuck that bug sounds awful, not even Bugstone had shit that bad.

-fancy eieiioeieo line of edit separation-

WHO'S READY FOR SOME MORE BURDEN

I'm sure that dozens of pro games had to be paused for an average of at least 5 minutes because tangoes got stuck on your cursor, but DOTA FLAWLESS MASTERRACE, AM I RIGHT?

That's a good point. I forgot about that one, because they fixed it years ago.

I don't think it cost anyone games, did it?

Except it isn't fixed, lel, just less frequent.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 10 2015 18:29 GMT
#15356
Isn't there a huge bug with aegis + bb CD penalty right now? It can remove like 20-30 seconds in respawn time?
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 18:30:46
March 10 2015 18:30 GMT
#15357
The worst thing that happened in LoL was actually the beyond epic "greatest bo3 in the history of esports" in which a combination of shitty internet and the fact that pauses were actually broken in the LoL engine caused a Bo3 series between WE and CLG to take 7 games and a week to complete during LoL S2 Finals

When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 18:31:08
March 10 2015 18:30 GMT
#15358
http://blog.dota2.com/2015/03/various-pathfinding-fixes/
I wonder what the difference is. :D

Oh yes, animations through fog and all that, yada yada. BUG FREE MASTER RACE BOYS
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 10 2015 18:33 GMT
#15359
also funniest dota 2 bug was the 18 hours of my life i spent watching aui retrieve his ET spirit from the rosh pit at dreamleague

fountain hooking was legit

I've been thinking about this a bit recently though, bugs in pro games feel different to me in League because the vast majority of pro games are Riot run. So Riot is in this weird situation (imo) where they are "responsible" for the bug but at the same time they're responsible for determining whether the bug should be considered game breaking and whether games should be remade etc (and they have pretty clear rules for how teams should deal with noticing a game impacting bug iirc).

With Dota it feels like for the most part the onus is on pros to understand bugs/what causes them/their potential for abuse and the expectation is that bugs will be abused by pros until banned (that stupid quelling PL bug and the xboct situation) or removed from the game (pretty sure nobody was taken too seriously calling for a remake of the fountain hook game). Whereas in the case of league because of the combination of more bugs and such heavy Riot control there's a much more general expectation from the community that Riot will remake games that potentially have game breaking bugs.

THIS POST PROBABLY DOESNT MAKE THAT MUCH SENSE I JUST WOKE UP
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 10 2015 18:34 GMT
#15360
hmm good point that ET spirit bug was a definite case of "game no work pls fix"
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