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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
January 24 2015 18:47 GMT
#6241
On January 24 2015 16:48 TheEmulator wrote:
idk maybe he's young enough still and will learn from Fear about how to act better than RTZ did.

But you're right who am I kidding here.

Fear is an asshole in pubs dude.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 19:02:40
January 24 2015 19:00 GMT
#6242
On January 24 2015 16:48 TheEmulator wrote:
idk maybe he's young enough still and will learn from Fear about how to act better than RTZ did.

But you're right who am I kidding here.

I feel like the team is putting him on a pedestal by having him play mid/carry.

I feel like he'd develop more as a player if he was on pos. 3-5 and put outside his comfort zone--but that would kill their immediate results and given how TI centric everyone is (and how quickly teams switch players anyway), teams only care about immediate results right now.
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YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
January 24 2015 19:08 GMT
#6243
On January 25 2015 04:00 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 16:48 TheEmulator wrote:
idk maybe he's young enough still and will learn from Fear about how to act better than RTZ did.

But you're right who am I kidding here.

I feel like the team is putting him on a pedestal by having him play mid/carry.

I feel like he'd develop more as a player if he was on pos. 3-5 and put outside his comfort zone--but that would kill their immediate results and given how TI centric everyone is (and how quickly teams switch players anyway), teams only care about immediate results right now.


Also I am not sure Fear is the best to learn from when it comes to anger, have you watched him stream? Dude gets pretty vile
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
January 24 2015 19:46 GMT
#6244
Liquid out of MLG CSGO
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
January 24 2015 20:01 GMT
#6245
Side note, I feel like Waga is the Grubby of Dota
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 20:04:28
January 24 2015 20:03 GMT
#6246
you MUST be joking

just reading this makes me angry
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
January 24 2015 20:29 GMT
#6247
On January 25 2015 05:03 teddyoojo wrote:
you MUST be joking

just reading this makes me angry


Both tend to be really chill on stream and talk about what they are doing, both are not affiliated with a big brand, both are pretty well liked in the community, both are of decent but not highest level skill.

But then again I don't know a lot about either's background so why does that make you angry?
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 24 2015 20:32 GMT
#6248
Probally because when people think of Grubby it's ussually WC3 Grubby and not late SC2 Grubby.
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
January 24 2015 20:35 GMT
#6249
On January 25 2015 05:32 SKC wrote:
Probally because when people think of Grubby it's ussually WC3 Grubby and not late SC2 Grubby.


True so in terms of results that are vastly different
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
January 24 2015 20:39 GMT
#6250
Scroll down to wc3
http://www.esportsearnings.com/players/1140-grubby-manuel-schenkhuizen/results_by_game

He was also awarded for the best player in the world 2 years in a row.

Waga's gaming achievements just isn't there. He's a superchill guy nontheless
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 20:55:22
January 24 2015 20:53 GMT
#6251
grubby is a fucking LEGEND




kids these days, no respect for their elders
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
January 24 2015 21:15 GMT
#6252
yeah but select was the world champion of DAWN OF WAR
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
January 24 2015 21:27 GMT
#6253
I hated coh/dawn of war style games with those stupid squad systems
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 24 2015 21:38 GMT
#6254


Seriously, it's not a fair comparison on an international level.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 24 2015 21:41 GMT
#6255
i think i may revisit csgo when i have my left hand back..im enjoying this mlg event.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
January 24 2015 22:00 GMT
#6256
So with the htc sponsor ship will liquid pick up a dota team or a superiorsuperiorsuperior moba team? Or maybe a competitive harvest moon team?
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
January 24 2015 22:02 GMT
#6257
maybe a third LoL team
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
January 24 2015 22:04 GMT
#6258
Liquid was going to get a Dota 2 team regardless of the new sponsorship. There's just nothing out there right now (unless the HTC sponsorship can help them get Secret).
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
January 24 2015 22:09 GMT
#6259
well with the rumours about nazgul being in a scrim lobby with secret, and this htc sponsorship, I don't think it's that crazy of an idea
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
January 24 2015 22:12 GMT
#6260
I mean curse was the front runner for secret at one point, but then curse the website brand wanted to get away from curse the esports brand, so it was already a possibility, and another big name sponsor can't hurt.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
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