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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 27 2015 02:48 GMT
#48321
when im at my computer with things to do ill drink about 2 litres a day now, really helps with everything

im going through your post acritter lol
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-27 02:52:16
June 27 2015 02:49 GMT
#48322
How do you even supply yourself that much water? Do you just have a water jug at your desk that you refill twice a day?

BTW thanks Targe and eieio, you are the best support group.
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7086 Posts
June 27 2015 02:50 GMT
#48323
i go through a shitton of water but i kind of have to because its 110 degrees and mega-dry
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-27 02:51:49
June 27 2015 02:51 GMT
#48324
2 liters isn't a ton of water, really, you can easily down that in one sitting if you try

if you just get a 2-liter bottle of something or other, refill it with water, and leave it by your computer, you should finish it before the day's halfway through

it'll be a fairly long sitting though
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 27 2015 02:51 GMT
#48325
On June 27 2015 11:49 Fencar wrote:
How do you even supply yourself that much water? Do you just have a water jug at your desk that you refill twice a day?

BTW thanks Targe and eieio, you are the best support group.

i buy a 2 litre bottle of water from a shop then refill it until i need to buy a new one
keep that at my desk at all times
now im at home though im drinking less because i have to walk to the fridge and back

i wouldnt say im great for support, ive just done lots of all nighters and like to be able to concentrate when i do :D
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-27 02:52:17
June 27 2015 02:51 GMT
#48326
On June 27 2015 11:49 Fencar wrote:
How do you even supply yourself that much water? Do you just have a water jug at your desk that you refill twice a day?

BTW thanks Targe and eieio, you are the best support group.

<3

for a while I literally just filled up 2 one liter water bottles every night and put them in my fridge and just made myself drink both of those during the day in addition to what I normally drink

now I'm better about drinking water but I might go back to that system cause I'm exercising a lot and it's summer

e: LOL TARGE DOES THE SAME THING
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 27 2015 02:52 GMT
#48327
ROFL eieio

confirmed best way to stay hydrated
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
June 27 2015 02:53 GMT
#48328
I drink way more than 2 liters of water a day. Apparently I drink more than I should be actually, but whatever.

idk I just have a habit of always having a glass of water around me.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
June 27 2015 02:55 GMT
#48329
I mean I just force myself to do those 2 liters in addition to what I normally drink, I try to drink significantly more than that

having a big water bottle with you is important cause people are lazy and don't want to get up to refill a glass constantly (me included, I'm literally making myself get up to do it right now lol)
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 27 2015 02:56 GMT
#48330
eieio pls ur scaring me, i just got some more water

2 litres is a good target to drink a day, should keep you well hydrated if you dont drink it all in one sitting
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Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
June 27 2015 03:02 GMT
#48331
Thanks guys, I'm going to make an investment in a large water bottle. Any brand/type/etc you guys recommend? I am not well versed in the ways of water bottles.

Tbh I'm still not sure what to do with my time tonight from now-6:00 AM when I'll probably go make myself 'breakfast.' My options are:

-Search for a couple of books to read.
-Play video games.
-Shitpost.
-Read My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic fanfiction by ShortSkirtsandExplosions.
-Watch anime.
-Listen to an audiobook/podcast.
-Watch youtube.
-A combination of the above.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 27 2015 03:03 GMT
#48332
also is anyone here skilled at repairing shitty plastic gear changing mechanisms on bikes

mine still works just fine except that I have to hold it into each gear position which is fucking annoying

and I don't want to have to go to the bike shop because S T I N G Y B O Y S
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-27 03:04:29
June 27 2015 03:03 GMT
#48333
just buy any bottle

unless you want one that will last for a long time

like the ones i buy are super cheap and i replace them every month or so, so they dotn kill me

i literally buy like evian bottled water, drink it, then refill it

e: nice shroomed favourited my tweet im famous
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-27 03:05:53
June 27 2015 03:05 GMT
#48334
On June 27 2015 11:26 eieio wrote:
"everyone has faith if you're sitting in a chair right now you sat down in it with faith that you wouldn't fall" askdjfnalkjsnaelranweljrwer literally someone said this 2 week ago at a meeting I was at

LMAo yes i had faith whoever made that chair wasn't completely incompetent you're absolutely right.

On June 27 2015 11:41 Acritter wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2015 11:25 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 11:22 Acritter wrote:
"also sorry I stole shit from you"

ah yes this is a good reason to apologize

On June 27 2015 11:21 Targe wrote:
id legitimately feel patronised if someone told me "everything happens according to gods plan" in relation to something bad

actually this is the one part of christianity that seems most reasonable to me as an atheist; dostoevsky won me over with his argument

if you are interested in reading a minor text wall I'll explain

this would bait the shit out of creams doitdoitdoit

okay so here we go

to start off with, let's get into the mindset of an intellectually rigorous christian. there are other kinds; I'm not interested in them

what does this entail? well, first of all, god is the all-powerful, all-knowing creator of all things (the infinitely good bit is actually kind of irrelevant, as it's a conclusion rather than a premise IMO). god is the mechanism from which and (this is important) by which all things happen. in other words, for a consistent, intellectual christian, there isn't a significant distinction between god and the world. you know how you can say that an artist's masterpiece is sort of a part of him/her? this is basically the same way, except that since god is by nature inextricably connected with creation, it's much less of a metaphor.

so with this in mind, let's take something like the book of job. job loses everything and is crushed beyond recognition. if we saw this happen to someone IRL, we'd say that it was really awful luck, but another way of putting it is that the world (universe) did it. this doesn't mean that the world is an intelligent actor working for a specific end, just as we don't say that tsunamis constantly have it in for japan. despite this, the world and the tsunamis are still what do these things to individuals. similarly, christians say that it's all according to god's plan or done by god. in our traditional mindset of viewing god as a distinct authority, this seems naturally horrible, and it is in that context. a being with unlimited power causing arbitrary harm is utterly abhorrent. however, the consistent christian views god like most of us view the universe: infinite and ineffable. things happen.

now, let's step back: christians do view god as a being as well as existing as the world. it's a misrepresentation to say that it's just a synonym for the world, because that would ignore one of their fundamental understandings of the world (namely, that it is deliberately worked). however, their position of it being acceptable that evil exists as part of god's plan isn't contradictory or even vile. reason being: god is, as mentioned, ineffable and moreover irresistible. you can't get rid of god, you can't ignore god. thus, resenting god's plan is as senseless as resenting the universe for existing in such a way that (say) your father gets cancer. it simply exists. the correct response is to accept god's plan and accept the universe as it is, and despite all that goes wrong, to love god (which in our atheist minds would be the same as loving life and existence). now, obviously this point can't be proven deductively, but there's a fairly reasonable inductive argument to it. if you get angry about everything bad that happens to you, you're going to spend a lot of time angry and unhappy.

so: naked we come from the earth, and naked we shall return to it.

if any of that didn't make sense or if you see a mistake let me know

edit: oh and if you want to read the source material that won me over, read "the brothers karamazov" by fyodor dostoevsky (in particular the parts involving zossima). I don't agree entirely with his conclusions, but I'll be damned if he doesn't know what he's talking about

edit2: also most of the christians who say this aren't particularly thorough or consistent philosophers, so what they're actually saying is probably more like "god will make everything okay, just you wait" and yeah that's pretty fucking obnoxious

i was following you in the beginning and it even made sense but then u hit me with the 'it deliberately worked' and now i'm confused again.
either way, if you view god as a synonym for the world we live in, then everyone's a fucking christian. it's just whether one interprets the world as god or simply as the environment you're thrust into through your mom's vagina. and i'm fine with that interpretation of god.
however most christians are convinced that god is an omnipotent puppeteer and that's what bothers me.

honestly i believe in fate a tiny bit - eg, the people you meet in your life: sometimes things just don't end up working out no matter how much you try and force it, or sometimes you just bump into someone out of the blue and I tend to simplify things and chalk it up to fate in either of these occasions.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-27 03:06:45
June 27 2015 03:05 GMT
#48335
ya I literally just bought two 1 L bottled water bottles from the grocery that I'd switch out somewhat often

although I'm probably gonna buy a big water bottle for camp tomorrow, the brand most of my friends use is Nalgene they're like $10 and super strong and shit they are WaycrossCampApproved with is like almost rito approval

On June 27 2015 12:05 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 11:26 eieio wrote:
"everyone has faith if you're sitting in a chair right now you sat down in it with faith that you wouldn't fall" askdjfnalkjsnaelranweljrwer literally someone said this 2 week ago at a meeting I was at

LMAo yes i had faith whoever made that chair wasn't completely incompetent you're absolutely right.

no seriously its just like amksndflkansdasdf did that actually come out of your mouth WTF LOL
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 27 2015 03:06 GMT
#48336
oh yeah, i read the wall of text acritter but i dont really have anything to say about it
i dont read philosophy or anything much, its not an area i know
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 27 2015 03:08 GMT
#48337
drinking water's a good habit to develop
also i consciously choose shit like water or light green tea over other drinks at restaurants now
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
June 27 2015 03:09 GMT
#48338
On June 27 2015 12:08 andyrau wrote:
drinking water's a good habit to develop
also i consciously choose shit like water or light green tea over other drinks at restaurants now

I've been doing that for a while. It's pretty good tbh, I love green tea.
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-27 03:14:07
June 27 2015 03:10 GMT
#48339
On June 27 2015 12:08 andyrau wrote:
drinking water's a good habit to develop
also i consciously choose shit like water or light green tea over other drinks at restaurants now

nah i still go beer everytime

(obviously not if its midday though)

wtf i registered a domain and uploaded a splash page saying its a wip and ive just got an email from some guy offering me SEO and web design services

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I have lots of code available from previous projects and this would mean
less development time, cost and fine tuned code for your website. Just let
me know the concept for xxxxx.com and I'll send the closest matching
projects for your review from the hundreds of sites in my portfolio.

I await your reply
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 27 2015 03:13 GMT
#48340
On June 27 2015 12:05 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 11:26 eieio wrote:
"everyone has faith if you're sitting in a chair right now you sat down in it with faith that you wouldn't fall" askdjfnalkjsnaelranweljrwer literally someone said this 2 week ago at a meeting I was at

LMAo yes i had faith whoever made that chair wasn't completely incompetent you're absolutely right.

Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 11:41 Acritter wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2015 11:25 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 11:22 Acritter wrote:
"also sorry I stole shit from you"

ah yes this is a good reason to apologize

On June 27 2015 11:21 Targe wrote:
id legitimately feel patronised if someone told me "everything happens according to gods plan" in relation to something bad

actually this is the one part of christianity that seems most reasonable to me as an atheist; dostoevsky won me over with his argument

if you are interested in reading a minor text wall I'll explain

this would bait the shit out of creams doitdoitdoit

okay so here we go

to start off with, let's get into the mindset of an intellectually rigorous christian. there are other kinds; I'm not interested in them

what does this entail? well, first of all, god is the all-powerful, all-knowing creator of all things (the infinitely good bit is actually kind of irrelevant, as it's a conclusion rather than a premise IMO). god is the mechanism from which and (this is important) by which all things happen. in other words, for a consistent, intellectual christian, there isn't a significant distinction between god and the world. you know how you can say that an artist's masterpiece is sort of a part of him/her? this is basically the same way, except that since god is by nature inextricably connected with creation, it's much less of a metaphor.

so with this in mind, let's take something like the book of job. job loses everything and is crushed beyond recognition. if we saw this happen to someone IRL, we'd say that it was really awful luck, but another way of putting it is that the world (universe) did it. this doesn't mean that the world is an intelligent actor working for a specific end, just as we don't say that tsunamis constantly have it in for japan. despite this, the world and the tsunamis are still what do these things to individuals. similarly, christians say that it's all according to god's plan or done by god. in our traditional mindset of viewing god as a distinct authority, this seems naturally horrible, and it is in that context. a being with unlimited power causing arbitrary harm is utterly abhorrent. however, the consistent christian views god like most of us view the universe: infinite and ineffable. things happen.

now, let's step back: christians do view god as a being as well as existing as the world. it's a misrepresentation to say that it's just a synonym for the world, because that would ignore one of their fundamental understandings of the world (namely, that it is deliberately worked). however, their position of it being acceptable that evil exists as part of god's plan isn't contradictory or even vile. reason being: god is, as mentioned, ineffable and moreover irresistible. you can't get rid of god, you can't ignore god. thus, resenting god's plan is as senseless as resenting the universe for existing in such a way that (say) your father gets cancer. it simply exists. the correct response is to accept god's plan and accept the universe as it is, and despite all that goes wrong, to love god (which in our atheist minds would be the same as loving life and existence). now, obviously this point can't be proven deductively, but there's a fairly reasonable inductive argument to it. if you get angry about everything bad that happens to you, you're going to spend a lot of time angry and unhappy.

so: naked we come from the earth, and naked we shall return to it.

if any of that didn't make sense or if you see a mistake let me know

edit: oh and if you want to read the source material that won me over, read "the brothers karamazov" by fyodor dostoevsky (in particular the parts involving zossima). I don't agree entirely with his conclusions, but I'll be damned if he doesn't know what he's talking about

edit2: also most of the christians who say this aren't particularly thorough or consistent philosophers, so what they're actually saying is probably more like "god will make everything okay, just you wait" and yeah that's pretty fucking obnoxious

i was following you in the beginning and it even made sense but then u hit me with the 'it deliberately worked' and now i'm confused again.
either way, if you view god as a synonym for the world we live in, then everyone's a fucking christian. it's just whether one interprets the world as god or simply as the environment you're thrust into through your mom's vagina. and i'm fine with that interpretation of god.
however most christians are convinced that god is an omnipotent puppeteer and that's what bothers me.

honestly i believe in fate a tiny bit - eg, the people you meet in your life: sometimes things just don't end up working out no matter how much you try and force it, or sometimes you just bump into someone out of the blue and I tend to simplify things and chalk it up to fate in either of these occasions.

"it is deliberately worked" translates to "it is made by a being with purpose and deliberation"

sorry, I start using pompous language with things like this, it's a bad habit

also, the point of the third big paragraph is reconciling the fact that christians don't understand god simply as a synonym for the world at large with the argument on a whole and also underlining how they can believe in god as being an individual without necessarily being an overpowered megalomaniac

the mindset is really fucking complicated for consistent christians, which is why I spent most of my life simply not understanding it

although I completely agree with
however most christians are convinced that god is an omnipotent puppeteer and that's what bothers me

I remain bothered by the vast majority of christians, although to be fair the same goes for most belief systems

some probably have higher proportions of disturbing people, but most humans don't think about things with enough nuance to get beyond the elementary propositions which create a horrifying image of reality
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