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intotheheart
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
I think FF8 was decent as far as FF games go honestly FF7 is super overrated people dont like it just cause it had an emo main character instead of MANLY MAN GERALT woWOWOW DEEP VOICE SO MANLY! | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
FF shoud've gone full 3D for FFX, in my mind. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 25 2015 23:42 Sn0_Man wrote: Well, in a well-designed linear game you shouldn't be able to tell the difference between monsters dynamically scaling with your level versus having unchanging stats. In practice, designers get lazy and don't want to hand-craft 50 different versions of every encounter so they throw the scaling into a formula that's invariably awful at representing the actual growth in player strength. FF8's actually the epitome of this where it's basically not worth it to gain levels from regular enemies because of how bad the level scaling is. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 26 2015 00:01 TheYango wrote: In practice, designers get lazy and don't want to hand-craft 50 different versions of every encounter so they throw the scaling into a formula that's invariably awful at representing the actual growth in player strength. Or there is simply not enough man hours to do that in a game. Hand crafting stuff take time, which is why changed crafted shit costs more. | ||
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Targe
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 26 2015 00:03 Plansix wrote: Or there is simply not enough man hours to do that in a game. Hand crafting stuff take time, which is why changed crafted shit costs more. Sure, I'll agree with that. But if designers can't do it well, then they shouldn't put it in the game. Bad level scaling is worse than no level scaling. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 26 2015 00:08 TheYango wrote: Sure, I'll agree with that. But if designers can't do it well, then they shouldn't put it in the game. Bad level scaling is worse than no level scaling. I am with you on that one. Its one of the problems with RPGs in general. Everyone wants to play the game their way, but the designers have to scale the challenge for both optimal and garbage builds. FF8 excluded because Japan makes RPGs weird and their design decisions are moon logic based. | ||
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Comeh
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Gosi
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intotheheart
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 26 2015 00:11 Plansix wrote: I am with you on that one. Its one of the problems with RPGs in general. Everyone wants to play the game their way, but the designers have to scale the challenge for both optimal and garbage builds. FF8 excluded because Japan makes RPGs weird and their design decisions are moon logic based. Character optimization isn't even addressed by level scaling because it creates a huge disparity in character power level *without* an actual difference in numerical level. In fact, it punishes poor optimization even more because typically the way to get suboptimal characters through a challenge is to grind levels, but that's more or less futile in a level-scaled game. The JRPG genre isn't so bad, it's just Square Enix that kind of stagnated. Most audiences still view them as the central pillar of JRPGs. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
here u go gosi | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
On June 26 2015 00:12 Gosi wrote: hello GD what is your favorite song this is mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQU5dYDt7-U Ice Cream Truck! spoilered: slightly nsfw + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
That game should be pretty decent, but maybe I'm just fanboying over Namco. | ||
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dismiss
United Kingdom3341 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On June 26 2015 00:26 dismiss wrote: The last FF I looked at was the one where you literally ran through straight corridors for the first 5 hours or so, 12 or 13 I think. Dunno if it changed, never looked at one of the newer ones again after that. That was 13, and the story goes that it was designed to be like that because they didn't know the specs of the PS3 at that point in development. | ||
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Plansix
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PhoenixVoid
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