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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 18 2015 15:20 GMT
#45261
On June 18 2015 23:29 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 23:12 BluemoonSC wrote:
You know you guys can right click to attack and, if you have the option enabled, deny right?

When you have years of muscle memory for it from DotA 1, there's not a whole lot of drive to break the habit.

Also, if your opponent tries to mess with your lasthitting tempo by drawing creep aggro at the moment you want to lasthit, A-clicking the ground can still net you the lasthit, while right-clicking the ground will move you forward and miss the lasthit.


during laning phase I have a command in my autoexec that switches it on and off. while laning I leave it on and after like 10 min I switch it off. I need to get my axe binds back up and running because I haven't had a 10key keyboard for a while and that was bound to the keypad.

ill have to try auto attacking the ground in the future because I've definitely missed last hits for that
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 18 2015 15:25 GMT
#45262
Autoing the ground will target the range creep instead of the nearest creep from time to time if the nearest creep isn't attacking at that very instant, its an easy way to miss cs for no reason
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 15:32:26
June 18 2015 15:29 GMT
#45263
On June 19 2015 00:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
Autoing the ground will target the range creep instead of the nearest creep from time to time if the nearest creep isn't attacking at that very instant, its an easy way to miss cs for no reason

It only attacks the ranged creep if the ranged creep is attacking you. It prioritizes creeps first by whether or not it's attacking you and then by distance. If no creeps are attacking you, it always targets nearest.

It's also really weird to be lasthitting from a spot where the enemy ranged creep is actually in your automatic target acquisition range while an enemy is still actually there to mess up creep aggro.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 18 2015 15:31 GMT
#45264
It's more common to miss CS because you misjudged your positioning/creeps moved and you target the wrong melee creep than running at the ranged creep, unless you are in the middle of the creepwave.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 18 2015 15:34 GMT
#45265
I click A to last hit or attack a specific target/hero, only auto attack on ground when I use PL
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 18 2015 15:40 GMT
#45266
I don't know where the discussion moved to the topic of intentionally A-clicking the ground as a mode of lasthitting, because that's not what I was referring to.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 18 2015 15:42 GMT
#45267
On June 19 2015 00:20 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 23:29 TheYango wrote:
On June 18 2015 23:12 BluemoonSC wrote:
You know you guys can right click to attack and, if you have the option enabled, deny right?

When you have years of muscle memory for it from DotA 1, there's not a whole lot of drive to break the habit.

Also, if your opponent tries to mess with your lasthitting tempo by drawing creep aggro at the moment you want to lasthit, A-clicking the ground can still net you the lasthit, while right-clicking the ground will move you forward and miss the lasthit.


ill have to try auto attacking the ground in the future because I've definitely missed last hits for that
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 15:50:01
June 18 2015 15:45 GMT
#45268
The only time I use the "a-click behind creep wave/camp" is when I am microing two control groups like visage birds. The rest of the time I just click creeps directly.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 18 2015 15:47 GMT
#45269
i a click for meepo farming micro to move the meepos about
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44300 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 15:50:26
June 18 2015 15:49 GMT
#45270
i a click the ground with pretty much any farmed hero like luna cause i'm lazy sometimes

i usually get all the last hits anyways even if you leave the hero as long as the hero has enough attack speed and damage .. of course sometimes you miss last hits but i'm lazy
this is a quote
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
June 18 2015 15:50 GMT
#45271
I a click when I'm playing toss mostly
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 18 2015 15:59 GMT
#45272
On June 19 2015 00:40 TheYango wrote:
I don't know where the discussion moved to the topic of intentionally A-clicking the ground as a mode of lasthitting, because that's not what I was referring to.


you said auto attacking I thought. what did you mean? you a-click?
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 16:44:40
June 18 2015 16:43 GMT
#45273
On June 19 2015 00:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
Autoing the ground will target the range creep instead of the nearest creep from time to time if the nearest creep isn't attacking at that very instant, its an easy way to miss cs for no reason

i do this shit all the time it's infuriating


i dont think ive done the stop cancelling autoattack animation for ages, simply a-clicking/rightclicking for the last hit is much more efficient if you know the timing for the autoattack on the hero.
the only time i stop cancel is if I mistime the click and attack too early.

I think all of this makes that league reddit poster's gripes even funnier because there's absolutely no reason to stop constantly stop cancel to last hit
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 18 2015 16:49 GMT
#45274
dota is actually unplayable right now
dota2reborn guys
making people lag out every 10min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
June 18 2015 16:53 GMT
#45275
On June 19 2015 01:49 Erasme wrote:
dota is actually unplayable right now
dota2reborn guys
making people lag out every 10min

Normal Dota sucks aswell?
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 18 2015 16:54 GMT
#45276
what hes saying is normal dota sucks because of reborn
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 17:09:33
June 18 2015 16:56 GMT
#45277
stop cancelling gets you some last hits you couldnt otherwise get against a missed deny (such that it has pretty much 1 or 2 creep autos left after your opponent hits it so you'd have to be launching your auto right then to get it before the creep)

like you're spamming stop cancel -> you see your opponent go for the deny early -> you let your attack go through

there's some instances where if you wait to start the attack until you see them start the deny it's already too late. it's mainly relevant on long frontswing heroes like drow and lina
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 18 2015 17:01 GMT
#45278
What kind of name is Durka? Im surprised reddit isnt up in arms over this.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 18 2015 17:08 GMT
#45279
On June 19 2015 01:56 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
stop cancelling gets you some last hits you couldnt otherwise get against a missed deny (such that it has pretty much 1 or 2 creep autos left after your opponent hits it so you'd have to be launching your auto right then to get it before the creep)

like you're spamming stop cancel -> you see your opponent go for the deny early -> you let your attack go through

there's some instances where if you wait to start the attack until you see them start the deny it's already too late


nothing better than juking your opponent into attempting a deny, cancelling your attack, then scoring the CS.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 17:09:57
June 18 2015 17:09 GMT
#45280
help i can't spend my forum gold
its piling up with no outlet
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