I just find it amusing. I remember one game where he got a lot of shit for his mangus play and struggling during that specific game. After the event, PPD talked about the game in a blog where he said they threw Sumail under the bus on purpose to secure their other two lanes.

SpiritoftheTunA

United States20903 Posts

June 08 2015 13:44 GMT

#42282

i mean he's nowhere near as solid as fata or arteezy past the laning stage he does game throwing shit all the time that has nothing to do with how hard his lane was

BluemoonSC

SoCal8933 Posts

June 08 2015 14:04 GMT

#42283

On June 08 2015 22:36 Plansix wrote:
I just find it amusing. I remember one game where he got a lot of shit for his mangus play and struggling during that specific game. After the event, PPD talked about the game in a blog where he said they threw Sumail under the bus on purpose to secure their other two lanes.

the difference is the best players make the most out of a bad lane instead of dying repeatedly

he still has a lot of room to grow

Surprise.820

United Kingdom1276 Posts

June 08 2015 14:05 GMT

#42284

On the other hand PPD isn't known for his good strategy outside of circle jerking. Remember the drama with PPD not adapting and still playing the same builds that were a patch old which led to the fallout and lack of training/taking the game serious? IIRC Arteezy spoke out on it in early days of his transfer to Secret. Takes two to tango but one team is getting results outside of a joke patch.

I still think Sumail is mediocre outside of the laning phase and poor mentally.

On June 08 2015 21:50 teddyoojo wrote:
comparing sumail+xcalibur with ee is a ridiculous thing to do

Yup, I was a little confused by the mention but answered.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

June 08 2015 14:12 GMT

#42285

On June 08 2015 23:04 BluemoonSC wrote:

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the difference is the best players make the most out of a bad lane instead of dying repeatedly

he still has a lot of room to grow

Agreed. A lot of people forget he is 15 and has a lot of growing up to do. As talented as he is, going for pubstar to pro is a long road.

goody153

44297 Posts

June 08 2015 14:17 GMT

#42286

On June 08 2015 23:12 Plansix wrote:

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Agreed. A lot of people forget he is 15 and has a lot of growing up to do. As talented as he is, going for pubstar to pro is a long road.

he's already like top mid(well not like rtz tier ) but yeah he has room to grow

Erasme

Bahamas15899 Posts

June 08 2015 14:59 GMT

#42287

On June 08 2015 23:05 Surprise.820 wrote:
On the other hand PPD isn't known for his good strategy outside of circle jerking. Remember the drama with PPD not adapting and still playing the same builds that were a patch old which led to the fallout and lack of training/taking the game serious? IIRC Arteezy spoke out on it in early days of his transfer to Secret. Takes two to tango but one team is getting results outside of a joke patch.

I still think Sumail is mediocre outside of the laning phase and poor mentally.

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Yup, I was a little confused by the mention but answered.

Comparing sumail to exca makes sense, but comparing them to ee doesnt