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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 08 2015 08:20 GMT
#42261
beesa stream is history
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 08 2015 10:54 GMT
#42262
On June 08 2015 16:03 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
grant's shirtless and yikin again

i mean girls can wear bikinis at the pool cant he go shirtless at the pool


i sense another ban incoming
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
June 08 2015 10:56 GMT
#42263
Guys I feel ill, got fever and am on sick leave today and tomorrow.
Dota 48h?
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 08 2015 10:58 GMT
#42264
im unable to view twitch at work, but whats up with ODPixel streaming? does he actually play dota or does he just cast stuff
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 11:20:56
June 08 2015 11:18 GMT
#42265
It's interesting how defensive people are regarding youth players in e-sports (and sport) in terms of how much people argue that there's still a lot of growing room and they're development promises for the future.
e.g. I really don't think Sumail is on the same level as RTZ or Cty at all and his composure/player intelligence is getting in the way of himself and his team. I'm actually a tiny bit insulted that people think he's super hot shit compared to those 2 young players and other top team mids. Overrated, typical EG hype and not going to fill promises, IMO.
Erase and improve
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 08 2015 11:21 GMT
#42266
so you think its an excalibur bis ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 08 2015 11:24 GMT
#42267
most casters play when they stream

odpixel is 3.7k mmr
posting on liquid sites in current year
Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 11:47:19
June 08 2015 11:27 GMT
#42268
On June 08 2015 20:21 Erasme wrote:
so you think its an excalibur bis ?


Nah Excalibur same shoes as EE (and sumail), it's worth a try for high MMR players to try to break into competitive scene.

I argue Sumail was pushed into tier 1/2 competitive outside of NEL because of the hype of producing another success story similar to Arteezy. In progames I'm not impressed with him outside of laning phase especially after all the issues of 6.83 sorta ruining their past DAC victory and now he's actually put into hard situations he can't handle. I think he's obviously going to learn things and get better at the game but I just think he's currently trying to fill in boots he's too small for.
Erase and improve
don66
Profile Joined June 2015
1 Post
June 08 2015 11:31 GMT
#42269
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 08 2015 11:33 GMT
#42270
helo it me ur brother send monei pls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44297 Posts
June 08 2015 11:39 GMT
#42271
and here i thought this reddit thread was something with 800 comments
this is a quote
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
June 08 2015 11:50 GMT
#42272
Oh you, thinking Reddit actually has good comments on things.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 08 2015 11:55 GMT
#42273
that was pretty good
posting on liquid sites in current year
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 08 2015 11:58 GMT
#42274
OD casts faceit too on his personal stream I think
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
June 08 2015 12:00 GMT
#42275
On June 08 2015 20:27 Surprise.820 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 20:21 Erasme wrote:
so you think its an excalibur bis ?


Nah Excalibur same shoes as EE (and sumail), it's worth a try for high MMR players to try to break into competitive scene.

I argue Sumail was pushed into tier 1/2 competitive outside of NEL because of the hype of producing another success story similar to Arteezy. In progames I'm not impressed with him outside of laning phase especially after all the issues of 6.83 sorta ruining their past DAC victory and now he's actually put into hard situations he can't handle. I think he's obviously going to learn things and get better at the game but I just think he's currently trying to fill in boots he's too small for.


I'm a bit confused by your sentence. Excalibur same shoes as EE and Sumail?

But concerning Sumail, I think PPD said himself in some interview or vlog that they opted to take in Sumail because they want to win TI, and taking in a young player who may have the potential to become really great was their best way to go about it. I'm sure they would have considered an established player as a replacement for Arteezy if there was someone who was good enough available. But it seemed to me that their alternatives were taking in some NA player who has been around the pro scene for a while but never accomplished much, or take in Sumail and hope he can learn what he needs to learn in time for TI. They knew he was good from NEL, but obviously there aren't many guarantees of how he will fit in the team or how will he develop slightly longer term when he plays professionally.
Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
June 08 2015 12:20 GMT
#42276
I'm a bit confused by your sentence. Excalibur same shoes as EE and Sumail?


It was nothing about their quality/skill. It was that they're pubstar individuals brought into the scene with existing good players rather than building their reputation through a team/tournament into the scene.
Erase and improve
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 12:46:54
June 08 2015 12:46 GMT
#42277
On June 08 2015 21:20 Surprise.820 wrote:
Show nested quote +
I'm a bit confused by your sentence. Excalibur same shoes as EE and Sumail?


It was nothing about their quality/skill. It was that they're pubstar individuals brought into the scene with existing good players rather than building their reputation through a team/tournament into the scene.


Even then, EE was older than Xcalibur and Sumail when coming into the scene and he somewhat captained his teams himself. Of course his first big LAN result was with Loda&Akke but nth was around before they joined and even won an ESWC qualifier. Sumail and Xcalibur are both still very young and were brought into very experienced teams as a +1.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 08 2015 12:50 GMT
#42278
comparing sumail+xcalibur with ee is a ridiculous thing to do u should be ashamed of urself next time consult ur local esports historian before u talk thanks in advance
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 08 2015 12:56 GMT
#42279
If there is one thing I have learned in the last couple of months watching EG is that if they lose, its always Sumail's fault. Even if PPD gives him the shittest lane in the entire world to help out the other lanes, its still all on Sumail.

Always. Forever.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44297 Posts
June 08 2015 13:26 GMT
#42280
rtz said that suma1l fulfills the same role as he did before (while suma1l is more of a traditional mid) it seems like EG is still everything that goes and dies down in the midlane thing
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