Hanni's team is the only one there that's actually worth anything to TL. Fire has said multiple times they weren't going to go back to TL but other than that there is exactly 0 teams worth getting in Dota that don't already have a sponsor.

Seriously though, western pros are a fucking joke. If there were any good SEA teams I would say that western teams would only make 2 of the top 8 spots at TI, but as it stands China is only going to have 5 teams there.

I think over half the western teams right now would lose to MVP.

SilverStar

Sweden18511 Posts

January 06 2015 21:22 GMT

#3222

On January 07 2015 06:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
fire is obviously pretty unlikely

I dunno they picked up ixmike once so why not again lol

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

January 06 2015 21:23 GMT

#3223

Jinxed speaking the harsh truth about western teams. We are all kinda bad, with the exception of EG. And even EG is sort of a wild card right now.

Erasme

Bahamas15899 Posts

January 06 2015 21:25 GMT

#3224

eg wasnt the best western team before shuffle ~~

Jinxed

United States6450 Posts

January 06 2015 21:31 GMT

#3225

That's the funniest part of the shuffle though. Everyone either stayed the same or got worse. We still manage to have these 80% useless players finding their way into good teams. It's fucking hilarious.

EG will probably be okay, Secret may even do decently, but right now the best teams of Europe and NA are VPP and EG respectively. Just let that one sink in for you. For even more hilarity, remember that Fire is your second best NA team.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

January 06 2015 21:31 GMT

#3226

On January 07 2015 06:25 Erasme wrote:
eg wasnt the best western team before shuffle ~~

I didn't say best. I said "good". The bar Jinx say was not that high. Somewhere around "a reasonable shot at winning things".

SkelA

Macedonia13079 Posts

January 06 2015 21:31 GMT

#3227

TLlol > Tldota 2:1 in users GG superior moba wins.

Erasme

Bahamas15899 Posts

January 06 2015 21:34 GMT

#3228

On January 07 2015 06:31 Plansix wrote:

Show nested quote +

I didn't say best. I said "good". The bar Jinx say was not that high. Somewhere around "a reasonable shot at winning things".

'we're all kinda bad except for EG'
it literally means eg is above the rest ergo eg is the best western team

Unleashing

Denmark14978 Posts

January 06 2015 21:34 GMT

#3229

Wonder if western dota will ever become stable, or even just stable enough to last from TI to TI.

Sn0_Man

Tebellong44238 Posts

January 06 2015 21:35 GMT

#3230

On January 07 2015 06:34 Erasme wrote:

Show nested quote +

'we're all kinda bad except for EG'
it literally means eg is above the rest ergo eg is the best western team

he meant NA

Jaaaaasper

United States10225 Posts

January 06 2015 21:35 GMT

#3231

to be fair on day 1 liquid dota had many nerds as well

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

January 06 2015 21:37 GMT

#3232

On January 07 2015 06:35 Sn0_Man wrote:

Show nested quote +

he meant NA

Even with EU teams, I don't see anyone that is so far ahead of EG that I wouldn't label them all as "good and capable of taking an event". "Best team" is always a dumb discussion in any competitive anything.

TheEmulator

28100 Posts

January 06 2015 21:39 GMT

#3233

On January 07 2015 06:31 SkelA wrote:
TLlol > Tldota 2:1 in users GG superior moba wins.

We had over 2k active yesterday as well. I'm sure once the hype on reddit dies down it will probably have similar numbers to LiquidHearth and Dota.

Jinxed

United States6450 Posts

January 06 2015 21:40 GMT

#3234

Oh cool, we're still beating liquid topdeckmoba. That's something.

Slardar

Canada7596 Posts

January 06 2015 21:43 GMT

#3235

Cut my life into pieces, this is my last resort.

@Erasme Wait who's a better than EG as a Western team?

Erasme

Bahamas15899 Posts

January 06 2015 21:48 GMT

#3236

On January 07 2015 06:43 Slardar wrote:
Cut my life into pieces, this is my last resort.

@Erasme Wait who's a better than EG as a Western team?

I think the first place was shared between a couple of teams
vpp/eg/c9/secret were all as good depending on servers/days

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

January 06 2015 21:51 GMT

#3237

Its better that way. I would rather have 10 competitive teams than a couple that dominate. Its more interesting and makes earlier rounds in events more exciting. Stomps are boring.