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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 19:49:43
April 28 2015 19:47 GMT
#30601
well 120 ias is a lot more than 70 and its also quite a bit cheaper than MJ
rapier + moonshards is 10650g or something for some hardcore carry potential just saying
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
April 28 2015 19:49 GMT
#30602
why are we talking about everyone's mom in this thread? you guys are ruthless.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2015 19:50 GMT
#30603
synderen&sunsfan


At around 14:00 they explain teddy's fail RP and that it maaaaaaybeeeee wasn't his fault.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 19:51:13
April 28 2015 19:50 GMT
#30604
On April 29 2015 04:49 BluemoonSC wrote:
why are we talking about everyone's mom in this thread? you guys are ruthless.

well, cheaper than the newer competition and offers extra bonuses. hard not to gossip if u know what i'm saying
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 19:51:29
April 28 2015 19:51 GMT
#30605
It's the ocasion when you just feel sorry that you don't have the slots for two naked hyperstones in your inventory.

120 ias and nothing else is just not the most optimal stats in an item.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 28 2015 19:53 GMT
#30606
To be fair, its probably more often that I'd want the stats from 2 Hyperstones than the stats from a Perseverance and a Platemail, lol.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 28 2015 19:53 GMT
#30607
Or double perseverence.


lord.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 28 2015 19:54 GMT
#30608
yeah lotus thingy has the worst stats in history adn a steep recipe but the payoff is a god-tier active I think so...
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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
April 28 2015 19:55 GMT
#30609
so /facetiously/ 6.82 = you shall not win before 25-30 min; 6.84+ = you should win within 40-45 min with these slot-efficient/OP items if you have a lead and don't fuck up too hard = the intended icefrog-approved pace?
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 28 2015 19:56 GMT
#30610
honestly I can't even remember all of the new items and their bonuses and names and components outside of the moonshard and the new arcmek boots
oh and I guess upgraded travels
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
April 28 2015 19:57 GMT
#30611
MANGO?
© Current year.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
April 28 2015 19:57 GMT
#30612
On April 29 2015 04:45 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 04:43 Unleashing wrote:
If you already have an AC carrier on your team as OD and you desperately need attack speed then maybe just maybe moon shard could be useful? Still not sure.

OD has no other comfortable way to get evasion, so Bfly's still probably a better way to get AS because of how high-value Evasion is, especially since nobody's gonna buy an MKB vs. OD and Hex doesn't disable it anymore.


OD could get the new item that gives 10 armor and evasion. 10 armor is probably better than 30 agy and 30 damage. But i guess Butterfly still has the passive tough.


Also, moonshard has something else besides the AS. Night Vision.

We all know how important vision is, and that extra vision can prevent or create more ganks. Also NS with Aghs and Shards. Nowhere to hide.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 20:04:51
April 28 2015 20:02 GMT
#30613
On April 29 2015 04:57 TMG26 wrote:
OD could get the new item that gives 10 armor and evasion. 10 armor is probably better than 30 agy and 30 damage. But i guess Butterfly still has the passive tough.

If you're getting a Medallion's -armor, you may as well just get an AC, lol. Like as weird as AC is to get, I'd still rather just buy AC than Solar Crest + Moon Shard on OD, lol.

On April 29 2015 04:55 trifecta wrote:
so /facetiously/ 6.82 = you shall not win before 25-30 min; 6.84+ = you should win within 40-45 min with these slot-efficient/OP items if you have a lead and don't fuck up too hard = the intended icefrog-approved pace?

Slot-efficient cost-inefficient items are better for lategame, not early-game.

Spending 1650 on a boots upgrade (or re-buying the Travels recipe) isn't how you win in 40-45 minutes, it's how you spend gold in a 2 hour game when you've been 6-slotted for the last 30 minutes.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 28 2015 20:05 GMT
#30614
One of the more interesting things about this patch is that when you think stylistically about which teams this favours, it seems like Vici are just going to get stronger here.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 28 2015 20:08 GMT
#30615
does VG even have a definitive style

they're not as easily defined like IG or alliance at their respective primes
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
April 28 2015 20:16 GMT
#30616
they don't
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 20:17:59
April 28 2015 20:17 GMT
#30617
In some ways, they remind me of EG with better support players and a better mid (OH?)
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 20:18:53
April 28 2015 20:18 GMT
#30618
On April 29 2015 05:08 andyrau wrote:
does VG even have a definitive style

they're not as easily defined like IG or alliance at their respective primes

i think the fy/fenrir roam is the most consistent part of their game; even on heroes like sandking, fy will try to make space more than he's taking it early on

though i guess when fy plays like wisp it's different
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 20:46:09
April 28 2015 20:19 GMT
#30619
On April 29 2015 05:17 Comeh wrote:
In some ways, they remind me of EG with better support players and a better mid (OH?)

The bait is strong with this one.

Edit: the Lotus shield blocks the reflects the one sniper spell. Further justifying its existence for comedy value.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 20:47:42
April 28 2015 20:46 GMT
#30620
i want to know what the deal is with the 5000+ gold support boots
that recipe is just silly.
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