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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 27 2015 17:15 GMT
#29881
america could technically just choose to drain their own oil fields but as most of society runs on cheap energy supply it's much more politically and strategically wise to keep your own reserves and drain other nations dry first.
although this may change a bit due to fracking now.

i did like a 15 page report on this in uni
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 27 2015 17:16 GMT
#29882
America bashing should be actively encouraged, just like every other nation. Criticizing your own country should be encouraged. Along with being aware of its short comings.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
April 27 2015 17:17 GMT
#29883
I'd bash China too if it claimed to be a paragon of human rights the way America does
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
April 27 2015 17:18 GMT
#29884
On April 28 2015 02:16 Plansix wrote:
America bashing should be actively encouraged, just like every other nation. Criticizing your own country should be encouraged. Along with being aware of its short comings.

A true patriot is willing to criticize their own country and look for paths to improve their country not blindly praise it.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-27 17:21:08
April 27 2015 17:19 GMT
#29885
America just has a really intelligent definition of what rights need to be taken away to help protect our FREEDOM and make us more FREE
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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
April 27 2015 17:19 GMT
#29886
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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
April 27 2015 17:20 GMT
#29887
tbh i really dont care what my government or anyone else's does, i'm just a cog waiting to be the ground by the gears of the masterpiece

but na doto best doto
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 27 2015 17:20 GMT
#29888
On April 28 2015 02:19 Dattish wrote:
nations are a stupid construct

Having studied a whole bunch of history, the alternative is just as stupid and move violent.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
April 27 2015 17:20 GMT
#29889
Doesn't matter anyways because countries have no power when we are all controlled by the Illuminati.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 27 2015 17:20 GMT
#29890
On April 28 2015 02:09 l3loodraven wrote:
what does player pool size have to do with anything? we're talking about 6k+ and everyone high enough to get matched with them, which in NA is like ~4.5k+

some says that in the biggest player pool, you can find the most talents
but dont quote me on that
big fish small pond
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 27 2015 17:21 GMT
#29891
On April 28 2015 02:17 Kupon3ss wrote:
I'd bash China too if it claimed to be a paragon of human rights the way America does

china is just too busy claiming other people's islands
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 27 2015 17:21 GMT
#29892
On April 28 2015 02:20 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 02:09 l3loodraven wrote:
what does player pool size have to do with anything? we're talking about 6k+ and everyone high enough to get matched with them, which in NA is like ~4.5k+

some says that in the biggest player pool, you can find the most talents
but dont quote me on that
big fish small pond

yes but, why does korea own sc2 then?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 27 2015 17:22 GMT
#29893
On April 28 2015 02:21 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 02:17 Kupon3ss wrote:
I'd bash China too if it claimed to be a paragon of human rights the way America does

china is just too busy claiming other people's islands

There are unlimited things to bash China for, just like America.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 27 2015 17:22 GMT
#29894
On April 28 2015 02:21 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 02:20 Erasme wrote:
On April 28 2015 02:09 l3loodraven wrote:
what does player pool size have to do with anything? we're talking about 6k+ and everyone high enough to get matched with them, which in NA is like ~4.5k+

some says that in the biggest player pool, you can find the most talents
but dont quote me on that
big fish small pond

yes but, why does korea own sc2 then?

better infrastructure/work ethic i guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
April 27 2015 17:23 GMT
#29895
On April 28 2015 02:11 Gosi wrote:
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On April 28 2015 01:01 tehh4ck3r wrote:
Im friends with the 2 best dota players in Phoenix (as long as EG doesn't boot camp there)

best arizona esports player is Mr. CPL Goeff 'incrmstroL' Anderson himself tyvm


Yeah but what's his MMR huh?
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-27 17:23:36
April 27 2015 17:23 GMT
#29896
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-27 17:24:30
April 27 2015 17:24 GMT
#29897
On April 28 2015 02:17 Kupon3ss wrote:
I'd bash China too if it claimed to be a paragon of human rights the way America does

In America we can have it both ways
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-27 17:24:38
April 27 2015 17:24 GMT
#29898
having also studied a bunch of history, i am going to go poop
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 27 2015 17:25 GMT
#29899
the middle east is fucked up enough but just imagine how mad they will really get if white dudes stopped giving them money for oil
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
April 27 2015 17:25 GMT
#29900
On April 28 2015 02:21 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 02:20 Erasme wrote:
On April 28 2015 02:09 l3loodraven wrote:
what does player pool size have to do with anything? we're talking about 6k+ and everyone high enough to get matched with them, which in NA is like ~4.5k+

some says that in the biggest player pool, you can find the most talents
but dont quote me on that
big fish small pond

yes but, why does korea own sc2 then?

Korea has the benefit of a smaller country with a strong emphasis on the Internet early on with an already instilled system of work ethic and practice. With a small country everyone is connected, and with more interest there is more scouting opportunities and competition so they have to be the best they can.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
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