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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 31 2015 15:17 GMT
#23001
On April 01 2015 00:08 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 00:07 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2015 00:01 Acritter wrote:
Tobi has returned to DOTA2. I want to make drama out of this but don't know how. Can I ask you guys for help?

I don't think he ever really left. He is just keeping his options open. You need some full Destiny level mental gymnastics to get drama out of this.

Sounds interesting, elaborate please.

You see casters switch between games all the time but when a caster starts off from a game and stayed with it for many years it is a betrayal to some. Now, in the case of Tobi he started off casting CS and CoD before Dota anyways so it isn't a betrayal, more a return to roots. In Destiny's case he ranted on Lycan's talkshow about how certain community figures who stepped away from SC2 would return to LotV casting, community activism, playing, etc all for the money and as soon as LotV falters would quit and take all their bucks away and never contribute. Some of those people were the same guys who were praising Blizzard and never gave criticism but turned away during BL/Infestor or when SC2 was not the same. The irony of it is that Destiny did the same with LoL after he quit SC2 but justifies it by saying he was honest about it at least.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
March 31 2015 15:21 GMT
#23002
the thing is, I still love starcraft but I would never return to playing it seriously until LotV bc the reality is that blizzard fucked up.

im sure there are many out there like me

so why does it surprise people that someone else, who is a human being (and not a demi-god like the sc community worshipped day9), would have the same feelings?
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 15:33:34
March 31 2015 15:24 GMT
#23003
I will return just like I did with Hots and play online for a while until I got deep into Dota 2. How long it holds my interest will depend. SC2 was my first dive into competitive gaming, so I will always jump back in if people want to play. I really like SC2 a lot, but the community is often like having acid thrown in my face over and over.

Edit: Also I remember loving SC2 because I only could blame myself. You don't need to deal with anyone else and that is appealing. The losing in 7 minutes because you missing a single thing scouting an no chance of recovering from an all in, not so much.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 31 2015 15:31 GMT
#23004
On March 31 2015 23:53 Gosi wrote:
Targe has had builders inside or outside his house as long as I've known him. My favorite was like two summers ago or something when they were drilling outside 24/7 and through teamspeak it felt like they were outside my own window.

rofl

how do i remember this
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
March 31 2015 15:32 GMT
#23005
On April 01 2015 00:24 Plansix wrote:
I will return just like I did with Hots and play online for a while until I got deep into Dota 2. How long it holds my interest will depend. SC2 was my first dive into competitive gaming, so I will always jump back in if people want to play. I really like SC2 a lot, but the community is often like having acid thrown in my face over and over.


for me the game was like having acid thrown in my face over and over.

ive said this a million times but aoe in this game is dumb.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 31 2015 15:33 GMT
#23006
On April 01 2015 00:24 Plansix wrote:
I will return just like I did with Hots and play online for a while until I got deep into Dota 2. How long it holds my interest will depend. SC2 was my first dive into competitive gaming, so I will always jump back in if people want to play. I really like SC2 a lot, but the community is often like having acid thrown in my face over and over.

Some people just can't accept change or want other e-sports to do well. So recently Sonic's business Sbenu sponsored GSL and most people were happy, one of BW's most passionate community figures are supporting SC2, advertising his league, get BW more exposure and GSL gets more funding. A vocal few found it a betrayal and Sonic reducing his support for Sonic Starleague and didn't want Sonic to support GSL. Something about the Starcraft community just has this pathetic sense of "we were #1 e-sport, no one can touch us and if they switch games we are betrayed." I can understand it's been 17 years of BW starting today and is an emotional history for some but if they can't accept the inevitability of change they will let their scene die.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
March 31 2015 15:35 GMT
#23007
as if they haven't poisoned their scene and left it for dead anyway
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2015 15:43 GMT
#23008
It’s a lot of people just unhappy that someone else is happy with something they don’t enjoy. It’s the idea “if I am not happy and don’t get what I want, no one can be”. The bitterness is real and sort of sad. I remember when I first got into it and it was a blast. Listening to State of the Game every week and looking up weird builds and playing on shit maps that were broken.

The game was more fun before the community made it all "balanced" and boring.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
March 31 2015 15:45 GMT
#23009
ya'll nerds, go 1v1v1v1 bloodbath
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 31 2015 15:48 GMT
#23010
that was legit my favourite map at one point in my sc1 career.
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dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
March 31 2015 15:50 GMT
#23011
Well, you don't have to macro a bunch so games don't get boring, it got that going for it.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 31 2015 15:54 GMT
#23012
On April 01 2015 00:50 dismiss wrote:
Well, you don't have to macro a bunch so games don't get boring, it got that going for it.

Believe it or not battlecruisers were a staple unit for me on that map
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 15:55:24
March 31 2015 15:54 GMT
#23013
On April 01 2015 00:50 dismiss wrote:
Well, you don't have to macro a bunch so games don't get boring, it got that going for it.


im a zerg player. there are few builds capable of winning early..and they are easily scouted and countered by the other two races unless you 6 pool

so, that's hardly even true


thought you were talking about sc2 not the ums map
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2015 15:57 GMT
#23014
My favorite map that was also terrible was Scrap Station. It was such shit, but lead to some really interesting fun games. Then the maps got all boring as people whined them into being all 100% the same.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
March 31 2015 15:58 GMT
#23015
There's a bloodbath map in sc2?

I never got up to big air because usually all ressources went into Scouts. They're OP when you're 10 years old or so.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 15:59:59
March 31 2015 15:59 GMT
#23016
i built like 2 bunkers and 3 siege tanks, declared myself impregnable, and rushed bc's. I'd literally distance-mine the extra mineral patches in ur base hahahahaha
after all, yamato cannon outranged all my opponents static AA defenses LOL

I was like 14 i'm kinda embarassed
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
March 31 2015 16:02 GMT
#23017
Rofl that reminds me of how I used to build 200/200 worth of BCs in the last mission of the Terran campaign and smash them into the Overmind, barely getting off 1 yamato to whittle it down eventually.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 31 2015 16:02 GMT
#23018
even as april fools we cant get a dota team HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2015 16:07 GMT
#23019
On April 01 2015 01:02 teddyoojo wrote:
even as april fools we cant get a dota team HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Naz knows not to toy with our emotions like that. It would be really mean, if you think about it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
March 31 2015 16:09 GMT
#23020
it's not april first yet here in the states. patience, teddy..patience.
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