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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
March 31 2015 07:53 GMT
#22941
On March 31 2015 16:49 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 16:48 ahswtini wrote:
to his credit i dont think he bought the 5k account cuz he thought he was 5k level, rather he wanted to learn faster

judge for yourself: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2np57h/experiment_to_prove_meaninglessness_of_mmr_system/

he also has the strange habit of claiming he has the skill of a 2k+ elo player in chess while actuallly having 1.4k, as well as attempting to get on 4k+ teams as a high skill support player


lol, best quote from the thread:

his mom came in on stream and told him to stop pissing all over the toilet seat
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 31 2015 08:01 GMT
#22942
this BBC radio1 big weekend thing sold out their 50000 tickets in 15mins. can bloody valve get a bigger venue ffs
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 08:15:46
March 31 2015 08:07 GMT
#22943
ok nvm, i forgot about that reddit thread. heres his equivalent "im 5k but my rating doesnt show it" thread in chess
http://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/2nvtws/hello_my_stream_is_starting_up_today_i_am_a/

honestly, i felt bad for him after he posted that self indictment blog: http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/478101-about-me-a-personal-indictment, but then a week later he posts another blog where he justifies his feeding on supports as a noble sacrifice for a greater good
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
March 31 2015 09:49 GMT
#22944
"I'm not a feeder, I'm just a martyr."
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 31 2015 10:07 GMT
#22945
i should write a dota blog about how there's no hope, nothing you ever do will matter, and mmr is fleeting and meaningless.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 31 2015 10:10 GMT
#22946
On March 31 2015 19:07 Shaella wrote:
i should write a dota blog about how there's no hope, nothing you ever do will matter, and mmr is fleeting and meaningless.

you could just copy paste every steam convo you have ever had
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 31 2015 10:49 GMT
#22947
right? The trench never ends so why even TRY
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
njt7
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden769 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 12:36:10
March 31 2015 12:18 GMT
#22948
That was kind of interesting I only consume reddit content posted here so his experiment have completly passed me by. The question shouldnt ever have been if he could reach 6k + Show Spoiler +
wtf is he that dumb?
. The question should have been can you learn more from playing in 5k mmr games then you can in 2k mmr games.

On the other hand its pretty hard to morally argue for the possible gains in learning for one person at the cost of your four teammates. When we have a perfectly viable learning method in gaining mmr instead of learning by losing.

If anyone wanna do a similar experiment I have a smurf with +5k for it. My condition would be a weekly report here where u would tell stories about your horrible losses but also hopefully insight in how you can improve. As well as you would need to keep playing 50% on your original account so that we might see some trend shifting magic.
"All the casters who flamed me ever for anything."
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 31 2015 12:26 GMT
#22949
i don't know how much more you will learn from getting your ass handed to you by 5ks. if you wanna see how 5ks play why not just watch the page 1 games
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 31 2015 12:28 GMT
#22950
On March 31 2015 21:26 ahswtini wrote:
i don't know how much more you will learn from getting your ass handed to you by 5ks. if you wanna see how 5ks play why not just watch the page 1 games

Me Qing with irc, I LEARN MOTHING
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
njt7
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden769 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 12:31:17
March 31 2015 12:30 GMT
#22951
There is a big difference between playing and watching.
"All the casters who flamed me ever for anything."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2015 12:34 GMT
#22952
On March 31 2015 21:26 ahswtini wrote:
i don't know how much more you will learn from getting your ass handed to you by 5ks. if you wanna see how 5ks play why not just watch the page 1 games

Not much, having played with people that much better than me. You mostly just die a lot and don't really where you made the mistake.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
March 31 2015 12:39 GMT
#22953
u can tell that someone is trash if they think 5-6k is high lmao
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2015 12:40 GMT
#22954
High is relative to where you are standing, both mentally and physically.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 12:41:36
March 31 2015 12:41 GMT
#22955
On March 31 2015 21:30 njt7 wrote:
There is a big difference between playing and watching.

a 700mmr player playing against 5ks is simply not productive at all.

plansix with the deep thoughts
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
March 31 2015 12:54 GMT
#22956
I did not know that it was even possible to be at 700 mmr. That sounds kinda sad.
[A]dmiral Bulldog | Naniwa | [A]lliance
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2015 12:55 GMT
#22957
Some low skill players have the heart of a champion. Some high skill players do not.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
March 31 2015 12:59 GMT
#22958
i have a theory that mmr correlates to "how good of a military general u would be in ancient times"
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 31 2015 13:05 GMT
#22959
On March 31 2015 21:54 Aikin wrote:
I did not know that it was even possible to be at 700 mmr. That sounds kinda sad.

hes not 700 mmr hes a 5k player huehue
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2015 13:06 GMT
#22960
Nothing like opening the morning having tell a client they have lost $300,000. I haven't even finished my coffee.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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