EPTOfficial 'what is Dota anymore' discussion - Page 1126
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Plansix
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BluemoonSC
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
On March 28 2015 11:32 BluemoonSC wrote: do us all a favor and go watch teddy farm a 14 minute aghs http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1354316159 honestly we all could have played better and i think we would have been fine. mistakes were made, but senpai is teaching me patience. e: that sf from last game had 285 games of shadow fiend. up until he smoked me from the high ground bc silencer gave him vision, i was demolishing him mid. yeah i had some very questionable initiations that entire game | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
wow music alive game esports ded | ||
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BluemoonSC
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32754 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
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l3loodraven
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I think he's a really good pick vs jugg because you can lock him down through bladefury and mitigate omnislash a lot assuming you go necro, but other than that, don't think he really has a place in the current meta | ||
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eieio
United States14512 Posts
On March 28 2015 11:46 Jinxed wrote: We actually slipped into Treant builds there for a second. Oh the memories. omg hahahahaha also where the fuck are my tickets volvo riot would never let this happen | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
I got 2nd in my MTG draft tonight literally c9. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On March 28 2015 13:51 l3loodraven wrote: hes a walking r button...underwhelming nuke, passive that does very little for all the trolls, snipers and juggs being picked,boar is meh, hawk scouting is nice but real teams don't usually need the vision...he just doesn't offer much outside of the ult I think he's a really good pick vs jugg because you can lock him down through bladefury and mitigate omnislash a lot assuming you go necro, but other than that, don't think he really has a place in the current meta Not to mention terrible stats and a bad setup for item builds. He needs more mana regen than just Bottle and a Basi/Vlads can reasonably give, he needs to keep a Blink, he doesn't build into a good right-clicker, and he doesn't get much from serious Int builds. People generally just build the Necro as a sort of compromise or else go for something like the mass aura build or super mobility Blink+Force. It's all so awkward, because he's a jack-of-all-trades who's so lackluster at everything that he might as well do nothing. The only times that he's looked good to me are as a support, when it manages to work. Then he's more on the level of a Bane without any channeling for his ult and free mobile wards. | ||
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goody153
44289 Posts
On March 28 2015 15:49 Shaella wrote: I'm actually so good I got 2nd in my MTG draft tonight literally c9. i played tiny leaders(similar to EDH but only 50 cards and everything on your deck is restricted to 3 casting cost or lower only) yesterday with my friends on the shop .. got super crushed 16 lands is enough for a 3 color curve(URW) if majority of my cards on my deck are 1 to cast with 1 color .. and i was so mana screwered btw grats you are literally envy except he is more depressed | ||
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Rocket-Bear
3070 Posts
On March 28 2015 13:51 l3loodraven wrote: hes a walking r button...underwhelming nuke, passive that does very little for all the trolls, snipers and juggs being picked,boar is meh, hawk scouting is nice but real teams don't usually need the vision...he just doesn't offer much outside of the ult I think he's a really good pick vs jugg because you can lock him down through bladefury and mitigate omnislash a lot assuming you go necro, but other than that, don't think he really has a place in the current meta His nuke is good, can often hit 2 targets. Don't know how it's "underwhelming". Not that much different from any other nukes in this game. Boar is good, it's like a skadi slow through magic immunity. i.e. nice vs spin early/mid game. Boar is a bit less strong later because he dies so quick. Especially if he gets Sven stunned. Bird is good. Don't know how you can say "real teams don't usually need the vision". That is such a wrong statement sorry. Aura is good. And his ult is amazing. On March 28 2015 16:49 Acritter wrote: Not to mention terrible stats and a bad setup for item builds. He needs more mana regen than just Bottle and a Basi/Vlads can reasonably give, he needs to keep a Blink, he doesn't build into a good right-clicker, and he doesn't get much from serious Int builds. People generally just build the Necro as a sort of compromise or else go for something like the mass aura build or super mobility Blink+Force. It's all so awkward, because he's a jack-of-all-trades who's so lackluster at everything that he might as well do nothing. The only times that he's looked good to me are as a support, when it manages to work. Then he's more on the level of a Bane without any channeling for his ult and free mobile wards. Nah Bottle or Soul ring is kinda all you need. He doesn't have that much mana issues.. Necro is also definitely the item to go for on him because it scales really good with his aura and it's a way for him to remove Linken's without much hassle. The reason Beastmaster isn't picked that much is because he needs a lot of levels so he's kinda bad as a support. He doesn't scale well enough to be physical damage mid and he has very weak escape for an offlane. + They nerfed his axes vs ancients so farming those are not as good anymore. I just feel like Batrider is more scary to play against than Beastmaster. So rather pick Bat for offlane. Right now I feel Beastmaster suffers from the Omniknight complex. His skills are obviously really good, it's just hard to lane him without intentionally losing that lane. I think he fits best as a mid with a carry safelane and offlane. Like normal safelane carry + like Void offlane. But he loses a lot of the mid matchups atm, and can't afford to lose the lane vs the commonly picked heroes now. Storm / SF benefits far too much of a good start. | ||
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goody153
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NubbleST
United States86 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On March 28 2015 17:24 goody153 wrote: i played tiny leaders(similar to EDH but only 50 cards and everything on your deck is restricted to 3 casting cost or lower only) yesterday with my friends on the shop .. got super crushed 16 lands is enough for a 3 color curve(URW) if majority of my cards on my deck are 1 to cast with 1 color .. and i was so mana screwered btw grats you are literally envy except he is more depressed i mean i can't really take credit i pulled Narset + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bTNg6Mc.jpg) | ||
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