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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-26 22:17:07
March 26 2015 22:16 GMT
#22241
On March 27 2015 07:15 Belisarius wrote:
Well "its" is weird because it's the only one where the possessive doesn't have an apostrophe.

English sucks. I'm glad I'm a native speaker and everyone else has to learn my retarded language.

mine/your/his/her/its/their

the possessive never has an apostrophe. It's really the same thing as you're and your.

English is quite easy to learn tbh
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 26 2015 22:17 GMT
#22242
On March 27 2015 07:16 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 07:15 Belisarius wrote:
Well "its" is weird because it's the only one where the possessive doesn't have an apostrophe.

English sucks. I'm glad I'm a native speaker and everyone else has to learn my retarded language.

mine/your/his/her/its/their

the possessive never has an apostrophe. It's really the same thing as you're and your.

English is quite easy to learn tbh

Easy if you have a prior knowledge of a Romance or Germanic language.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 26 2015 22:19 GMT
#22243
Easy compared to other languages in the same group. It obviously will be easier to learn languages similar to the ones you already know compared to something completelly foreign.
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
March 26 2015 22:19 GMT
#22244
english is weird as fuck

AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
March 26 2015 22:19 GMT
#22245
Yeah. Japan Korea etc have it quite difficult
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 26 2015 22:19 GMT
#22246
i feel like spanish is the easiest of the romance languages, not that i would personally know.
posting on liquid sites in current year
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-26 22:30:18
March 26 2015 22:28 GMT
#22247
On March 27 2015 07:16 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 07:15 Belisarius wrote:
Well "its" is weird because it's the only one where the possessive doesn't have an apostrophe.

English sucks. I'm glad I'm a native speaker and everyone else has to learn my retarded language.

mine/your/his/her/its/their

the possessive never has an apostrophe. It's really the same thing as you're and your.

English is quite easy to learn tbh

Obviously I shouldn't ever use "only" when talking about english.

Those others are a completely different form, so they're going to be easier to remember. Sure, it's not unique, but "its" is particularly annoying because most possessives share the "X has" contraction with "X is".

For no reason at all, "its" doesn't follow this, and both are incredibly common. I'm fairly OCD about it myself, but I can see why people get it wrong.

Also Yango has a software glitch on this one, not sure if anyone else has noticed.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
March 26 2015 22:28 GMT
#22248
I've been learning German casually lately, picking up a few words here and there. Need to work on my Korean because communicating with my parents gets hard sometimes and I'd like to read more Korean writing.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-26 22:32:05
March 26 2015 22:30 GMT
#22249
On March 27 2015 07:28 Belisarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 07:16 SKC wrote:
On March 27 2015 07:15 Belisarius wrote:
Well "its" is weird because it's the only one where the possessive doesn't have an apostrophe.

English sucks. I'm glad I'm a native speaker and everyone else has to learn my retarded language.

mine/your/his/her/its/their

the possessive never has an apostrophe. It's really the same thing as you're and your.

English is quite easy to learn tbh


For no reason at all, "its" doesn't follow this, and both are incredibly common. I'm fairly OCD about it myself, but I can see why people get it wrong.

i mean, by what SKC said, it's pretty clear that all of the possessives for pronouns lack apostrophes (including its) and all the possessives for proper nouns and common nouns have them.
posting on liquid sites in current year
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 26 2015 22:32 GMT
#22250
I'm actually disgusting on PL
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
March 26 2015 22:33 GMT
#22251
stop abusing broken heroes
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 26 2015 22:36 GMT
#22252
pl is only good when they dont have axe/troll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 26 2015 22:36 GMT
#22253
No.

And I promise to only use my powers for evil
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
March 26 2015 22:37 GMT
#22254
On March 27 2015 07:30 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 07:28 Belisarius wrote:
On March 27 2015 07:16 SKC wrote:
On March 27 2015 07:15 Belisarius wrote:
Well "its" is weird because it's the only one where the possessive doesn't have an apostrophe.

English sucks. I'm glad I'm a native speaker and everyone else has to learn my retarded language.

mine/your/his/her/its/their

the possessive never has an apostrophe. It's really the same thing as you're and your.

English is quite easy to learn tbh


For no reason at all, "its" doesn't follow this, and both are incredibly common. I'm fairly OCD about it myself, but I can see why people get it wrong.

i mean, by what SKC said, it's pretty clear that all of the possessives for pronouns lack apostrophes (including its) and all the possessives for proper nouns and common nouns have them.


That's true. It still looks too much like the non-pronoun form to be straightforward, but there is (unlike a lot of things) actually some logic there.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 26 2015 22:38 GMT
#22255
On March 27 2015 07:28 Belisarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 07:16 SKC wrote:
On March 27 2015 07:15 Belisarius wrote:
Well "its" is weird because it's the only one where the possessive doesn't have an apostrophe.

English sucks. I'm glad I'm a native speaker and everyone else has to learn my retarded language.

mine/your/his/her/its/their

the possessive never has an apostrophe. It's really the same thing as you're and your.

English is quite easy to learn tbh

Obviously I shouldn't ever use "only" when talking about english.

Those others are a completely different form, so they're going to be easier to remember. Sure, it's not unique, but "its" is particularly annoying because most possessives share the "X has" contraction with "X is".

For no reason at all, "its" doesn't follow this, and both are incredibly common. I'm fairly OCD about it myself, but I can see why people get it wrong.

Also Yango has a software glitch on this one, not sure if anyone else has noticed.

It sounded like you meant the possessive pronouns had apostrophes, not the contractions of "has".

Do people even use contractions like that regularly? If someone wrote "He's a dog" I would certainly read it as he is a dog, not he has a dog. Even if the "is" contraction didn't make sense it would probally take me a while to realize they contracted "has" for some reason.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-26 22:57:45
March 26 2015 22:56 GMT
#22256
"He's got a dog" is pretty common.

"He's a dog" for "he has a dog" would never be used afaik. Maybe somewhere in the UK.

So the contracted form is actually longer than the non-contracted form. I am not surprised.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 26 2015 22:58 GMT
#22257
But then it's not a possessive, just an auxiliary verb. I think I get what you mean, it's just that you mentioned possessive and it made me think of something else.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 26 2015 23:02 GMT
#22258
Why is this even a thing people are talking about
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 26 2015 23:04 GMT
#22259
Because they want to know how languages work. Its called being curious. Its weird, I know.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-26 23:06:21
March 26 2015 23:05 GMT
#22260
Well you're using a pronoun again so it's weird.

The ones I meant are things like "the dog's bone" etc. A lot of people think of those as contractions of "has" even though you would never say "the dog has bone". Maybe they aren't, I don't actually know the etymology.

You're right, I wasn't being very precise and this is a confusing enough topic to begin with.
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