EPTOfficial 'what is Dota anymore' discussion - Page 1097
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Acritter
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trifecta
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Dattish
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Acritter
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PhoenixVoid
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On March 26 2015 05:47 Acritter wrote: Also, people have finally figured out that Void is still really broken. Can we just get rid of the hero already? Not until they release a Faceless Rex or Faceful Void arcana. | ||
BluemoonSC
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trifecta
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Acritter
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On March 26 2015 05:48 BluemoonSC wrote: i think he is a hero that greatly takes advantage of the cumback gold, but i do not think void is as broken as some of the other heroes in the meta. a lot of the changes made to him in recent patches have made him more bearable. The obvious comeback gold synergy is why he's broken. The hero himself is why he's despicable. Chronosphere, on a far greater level than literally any other spell in the game, is all but impossible to interact with. It's definitely gotten better than the ridiculous shitshow than it used to be, but the hero needs to be majorly worked with if I'm ever going to see him without an instant sense of deep loathing. The meta where everyone instant-picked him in pubs was my most hated meta. Chrono made the game all but come down to that one hero. If the Void was good, then he would only lose if the other team constantly picked him off. If the Void was bad, it was almost impossible for his team to win. Fucking disgusting. | ||
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Slomo
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BluemoonSC
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On March 26 2015 05:54 Acritter wrote: The obvious comeback gold synergy is why he's broken. The hero himself is why he's despicable. Chronosphere, on a far greater level than literally any other spell in the game, is all but impossible to interact with. It's definitely gotten better than the ridiculous shitshow than it used to be, but the hero needs to be majorly worked with if I'm ever going to see him without an instant sense of deep loathing. The meta where everyone instant-picked him in pubs was my most hated meta. Chrono made the game all but come down to that one hero. If the Void was good, then he would only lose if the other team constantly picked him off. If the Void was bad, it was almost impossible for his team to win. Fucking disgusting. positioning and disable is so important when you're playing vs a void. if you're letting him initiate on you, you're doing it wrong. if you're not drafting disable and initiation, you're still doing it wrong. i'd rather play against a void than a troll these days. i will concede that pubs are absolutely horrible at doing the things that i mention. | ||
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Sn0_Man
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now u basically have to pick venge (which seems to happen regardless) | ||
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BluemoonSC
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On March 26 2015 05:59 Sn0_Man wrote: I think forcing ppl out of chrono was kinda a nice counterplay or w/e now u basically have to pick venge (which seems to happen regardless) ya i love venge normally but if i see faceless and im in a support mood, she's ma girl | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On March 26 2015 05:58 BluemoonSC wrote: positioning and disable is so important when you're playing vs a void. if you're letting him initiate on you, you're doing it wrong. if you're not drafting disable and initiation, you're still doing it wrong. i'd rather play against a void than a troll these days. i will concede that pubs are absolutely horrible at doing the things that i mention. Your concession is noted. I once had a teamfight where I was playing Bat, got a clean abduction on the enemy Undying, and watched with a growing sense of horror as my entire team ran past the hero I had just stolen. He got off his full spell suite, and we lost the fight. I asked them what happened after, and it turned out that everyone had assumed someone else would kill the Undying. Yeah. It's those kinds of flaws that make me hate the hero, along with the fact that the same damn thing happens in professional play. There are tons of games where Void tears the game wide open, and also games like the TI4 one where Ferrari_430 lost his team the game by getting nothing but the shittiest Chronos. I hate seeing one hero have that amount of power over the game. Not even 4pro1 lineups have that kind of distortion. As for Void versus Troll... I would rather play against Void if I wanted nothing more than to win, but I would rather play against Troll overall. The hero is just so damn irritating. It's like when blyatcyka was utter trash and people picked him against Slark anyway. I was practically guaranteed a victory, but the game was so unpleasant it almost didn't matter. | ||
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Rocket-Bear
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On March 26 2015 04:48 Comeh wrote: oh rocketbear apparently that MKP game you posted the other day was a fixed game? Nice dude SC2 dying even though its already dead. Double dead. Ye i saw. Been a lot of matchfixing in sc2 recently.. I just pray Leenock is not involved | ||
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Logo
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As for the comeback gold, even majorly popular position 1 (and most 2s) since the kill change have been a hero in really good position to use comeback gold and xp. Void, Jugg, Sniper, and even Troll all have ults that give them a pretty good shot at a pick-off even if your team is behind. | ||
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PassiveAce
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Slomo
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Acritter
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On March 26 2015 06:15 PassiveAce wrote: lmao my roommate arguing that if you make enough money for bbc you should be allowed to punch people Ah, capitalism | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 26 2015 05:43 trifecta wrote: dude pulled an idra Even Idra never hit someone over cold food. Seriously, the man got mad at a producer for not bullying the hotel into reopening the kitchen for the night so he could have steak. Who gets violent over that shit? And if that is why they fired him over, just think about all the other shit he has pulled that didn't get him fired. On March 26 2015 06:18 Slomo wrote: All I wanted is them finishing this series. But BBC doesnt even want to do that. He physical assaulted the producer. I am not really sure how you come back from that or make shows after you pull that trigger. | ||
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