• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:49
CET 11:49
KST 19:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT28Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0243LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles
Tourneys
StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament How do the "codes" work in GSL?
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 TvZ is the most complete match up CasterMuse Youtube A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread New broswer game : STG-World
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here!
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1180 users

Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion - Page 10333

Forum Index > Dota 2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 10331 10332 10333 10334 10335 10601 Next
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-03 21:34:34
August 03 2020 21:32 GMT
#206641
https://twitter.com/sheepsticked/status/1290287955827814400?s=20

Interesting Twitlonger by Sheepo. The thing is, is even hitting 7.0k MMR good enough to have aspirations of being a pro player? For example Saberlight is an absolute beast, he's 10k MMR, was number one EU leaderboards a while ago. It still took him years playing in tier 2-3 teams to start finally making money off playing Dota after they got signed by NiP a couple months ago. 10k and barely hitting 7k is a massive MMR difference, of course. How good do you have to be to be making money by being a Dota 2 pro?
super gg
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28098 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-03 22:14:27
August 03 2020 21:50 GMT
#206642
If she was good enough to go pro she would have casually hit 7k without trying 3 years ago when she posted her initial twitlonger. Needing to "buckle down" in order to hit a mediocre MMR (mediocre from a pros perspective) is VERY far from being pro material.

With that being said I wish her luck I guess. Would be cool to see someone prove everyone wrong, but if I'm being honest she just doesn't have the base level of talent needed.
Administrator
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 03 2020 23:36 GMT
#206643
I imagine as a girl she gets trolled a lot more often than a similarly skilled male, but it may also be the case that she just isn't good enough. I would say she should try to play competitively instead of grinding MMR tho
Writer@WriterYamato
Maverick_2009
Profile Joined December 2014
Somewhere2002 Posts
August 04 2020 00:07 GMT
#206644
My opinion of Sheepsticked was always kinda that she just became a Meepo spammer which was the source of her MMR, of course that only gets you so far at a certain point (looking at morons like Sensibility tho) but I kinda agree with Emu here that she probably just doesn't have the base level of talent needed and I wish her all the best nevertheless, I'd certainly love to be proven wrong
https://www.twitch.tv/deso_739
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7065 Posts
August 04 2020 00:43 GMT
#206645
It reads like her thinking is more like 'if I can keep improving at this pace I can try to go pro' rather than '7k mmr is enough to go pro'
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-04 01:56:17
August 04 2020 01:54 GMT
#206646
i was 6.5k like 6 years ago it wasnt even great back then and wasnt close to being enough to go pro, beesa best example how mmr also doesnt translate to being good at pro dota at all now its literally completely irrelevant mmr like completely pointless
reminds me of watching last chance u when these guys not even getting D2 offers talk about going to the nfl
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 04 2020 04:02 GMT
#206647
On August 04 2020 09:43 tehh4ck3r wrote:
It reads like her thinking is more like 'if I can keep improving at this pace I can try to go pro' rather than '7k mmr is enough to go pro'

same but "improving" at that pace simply isnt good enough these days
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 04 2020 16:08 GMT
#206648
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 04 2020 18:38 GMT
#206649
On August 04 2020 13:02 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2020 09:43 tehh4ck3r wrote:
It reads like her thinking is more like 'if I can keep improving at this pace I can try to go pro' rather than '7k mmr is enough to go pro'

same but "improving" at that pace simply isnt good enough these days

past a certain point mmr just feels inflated
Theres very little difference in a pro setting between a top 10 and a top 200. The mechanical skill will be the same, the big difference is how they play the map/game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 05 2020 10:39 GMT
#206650
On August 05 2020 03:38 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2020 13:02 rabidch wrote:
On August 04 2020 09:43 tehh4ck3r wrote:
It reads like her thinking is more like 'if I can keep improving at this pace I can try to go pro' rather than '7k mmr is enough to go pro'

same but "improving" at that pace simply isnt good enough these days

past a certain point mmr just feels inflated
Theres very little difference in a pro setting between a top 10 and a top 200. The mechanical skill will be the same, the big difference is how they play the map/game.

top 200 in europe is like 9k. sheepsticked's short term goal is literally like top ~1500 and it only gets progressively harder from there
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 05 2020 11:15 GMT
#206651
I think many people would like to see a female pro player. I can see any physical disadvantages that should make it harder to succeed . Feel that if a female get into top 200 EU they would get a chance pretty fast for all the publicity it would bring to the org.

That brings another topic to mind, are you guys in favor for a female dota league system.
I myself don't really like it, as i can't see any gender based advantages that would call for it.
GO OG
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 05 2020 12:21 GMT
#206652
Gender based leagues in video games seems silly.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 05 2020 17:09 GMT
#206653
So my wife loves guinea pigs and since we have our own house she wanted one(at apartment it was 700$ a year to have one). We got one from a rescue shelter, learned they need partners (herd animals. It is apparently so bad for them it is illegal to have only one in some places in Europe).

We got a male so they need a female one to be sure they'll get along, took us a while to find a place with them that wasn't just a pet store (it was one that bought babies sometimes, but all their adults were from bad homes). We got an adult one on Saturday. She seemed pretty chill... But looked kinda pregnant from some angles. Only some - from most she didn't look pregnant at all. We are keeping them in separate cages for a week or two to prevent illness from spreading.

So it turns out she was extremely pregnant and gave birth this morning. She didn't look very pregnant because she only had one child. (The normal number is 2-6). So now I have 3 guinea pigs, one of which isn't even a day old.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
August 05 2020 17:16 GMT
#206654
On August 06 2020 02:09 Nevuk wrote:
So my wife loves guinea pigs and since we have our own house she wanted one(at apartment it was 700$ a year to have one). We got one from a rescue shelter, learned they need partners (herd animals. It is apparently so bad for them it is illegal to have only one in some places in Europe).

We got a male so they need a female one to be sure they'll get along, took us a while to find a place with them that wasn't just a pet store (it was one that bought babies sometimes, but all their adults were from bad homes). We got an adult one on Saturday. She seemed pretty chill... But looked kinda pregnant from some angles. Only some - from most she didn't look pregnant at all. We are keeping them in separate cages for a week or two to prevent illness from spreading.

So it turns out she was extremely pregnant and gave birth this morning. She didn't look very pregnant because she only had one child. (The normal number is 2-6). So now I have 3 guinea pigs, one of which isn't even a day old.

There was this Twitter trend a few days ago about how 1+1 can equal 3 because one could be a pregnant mother, and this is applicable to that.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-05 17:44:33
August 05 2020 17:44 GMT
#206655
Grats on being a grandpa :3
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 05 2020 17:56 GMT
#206656
Well, at least it's really cute. Damn hard to get a good picture of though (it's mother likes to hide in its box and take it with her, so I can only get peeks. No idea of gender. Hopefully female).

Couple pics I got:
https://imgur.com/a/wzTGZZz

(We have a much bigger cage that the other cavy is in at the moment, that we'll be putting them all in eventually).

Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 05 2020 18:02 GMT
#206657
I can only make out the babys presence by its hellish red eyes lmao
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 05 2020 18:11 GMT
#206658
Ah here's a better one my wife took :
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
August 06 2020 00:37 GMT
#206659
tiny lil pig
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-06 00:45:49
August 06 2020 00:44 GMT
#206660
Last pictures of it I swear (finally got some decent ones) :
https://imgur.com/a/mECdpMv
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

The mother we adopted was apparently seized by social services along with 5 other guinea pigs and the owner was taking terrible care of them (very small cages with each being isolated alone)
Prev 1 10331 10332 10333 10334 10335 10601 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 225
Creator 43
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 31885
Calm 8274
Sea 4975
Rain 2257
Horang2 1190
Flash 799
Bisu 505
BeSt 284
Mong 239
Dewaltoss 189
[ Show more ]
hero 175
Hyuk 139
EffOrt 107
Last 103
ToSsGirL 55
Rush 50
Soulkey 36
NaDa 27
sorry 26
Hm[arnc] 24
910 20
Free 18
Terrorterran 10
NotJumperer 8
Dota 2
XaKoH 486
febbydoto17
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1695
allub293
kRYSTAL_49
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes201
Other Games
singsing1484
Liquid`RaSZi1060
ceh9599
B2W.Neo45
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick856
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 39
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1555
• Stunt588
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1h 12m
OSC
13h 12m
The PondCast
23h 12m
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
SC Evo Complete
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-22
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.