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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-03 21:34:34
August 03 2020 21:32 GMT
#206641
https://twitter.com/sheepsticked/status/1290287955827814400?s=20

Interesting Twitlonger by Sheepo. The thing is, is even hitting 7.0k MMR good enough to have aspirations of being a pro player? For example Saberlight is an absolute beast, he's 10k MMR, was number one EU leaderboards a while ago. It still took him years playing in tier 2-3 teams to start finally making money off playing Dota after they got signed by NiP a couple months ago. 10k and barely hitting 7k is a massive MMR difference, of course. How good do you have to be to be making money by being a Dota 2 pro?
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28093 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-03 22:14:27
August 03 2020 21:50 GMT
#206642
If she was good enough to go pro she would have casually hit 7k without trying 3 years ago when she posted her initial twitlonger. Needing to "buckle down" in order to hit a mediocre MMR (mediocre from a pros perspective) is VERY far from being pro material.

With that being said I wish her luck I guess. Would be cool to see someone prove everyone wrong, but if I'm being honest she just doesn't have the base level of talent needed.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 03 2020 23:36 GMT
#206643
I imagine as a girl she gets trolled a lot more often than a similarly skilled male, but it may also be the case that she just isn't good enough. I would say she should try to play competitively instead of grinding MMR tho
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Maverick_2009
Profile Joined December 2014
Somewhere2002 Posts
August 04 2020 00:07 GMT
#206644
My opinion of Sheepsticked was always kinda that she just became a Meepo spammer which was the source of her MMR, of course that only gets you so far at a certain point (looking at morons like Sensibility tho) but I kinda agree with Emu here that she probably just doesn't have the base level of talent needed and I wish her all the best nevertheless, I'd certainly love to be proven wrong
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7056 Posts
August 04 2020 00:43 GMT
#206645
It reads like her thinking is more like 'if I can keep improving at this pace I can try to go pro' rather than '7k mmr is enough to go pro'
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-04 01:56:17
August 04 2020 01:54 GMT
#206646
i was 6.5k like 6 years ago it wasnt even great back then and wasnt close to being enough to go pro, beesa best example how mmr also doesnt translate to being good at pro dota at all now its literally completely irrelevant mmr like completely pointless
reminds me of watching last chance u when these guys not even getting D2 offers talk about going to the nfl
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 04 2020 04:02 GMT
#206647
On August 04 2020 09:43 tehh4ck3r wrote:
It reads like her thinking is more like 'if I can keep improving at this pace I can try to go pro' rather than '7k mmr is enough to go pro'

same but "improving" at that pace simply isnt good enough these days
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
August 04 2020 16:08 GMT
#206648
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 04 2020 18:38 GMT
#206649
On August 04 2020 13:02 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2020 09:43 tehh4ck3r wrote:
It reads like her thinking is more like 'if I can keep improving at this pace I can try to go pro' rather than '7k mmr is enough to go pro'

same but "improving" at that pace simply isnt good enough these days

past a certain point mmr just feels inflated
Theres very little difference in a pro setting between a top 10 and a top 200. The mechanical skill will be the same, the big difference is how they play the map/game.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 05 2020 10:39 GMT
#206650
On August 05 2020 03:38 Erasme wrote:
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On August 04 2020 13:02 rabidch wrote:
On August 04 2020 09:43 tehh4ck3r wrote:
It reads like her thinking is more like 'if I can keep improving at this pace I can try to go pro' rather than '7k mmr is enough to go pro'

same but "improving" at that pace simply isnt good enough these days

past a certain point mmr just feels inflated
Theres very little difference in a pro setting between a top 10 and a top 200. The mechanical skill will be the same, the big difference is how they play the map/game.

top 200 in europe is like 9k. sheepsticked's short term goal is literally like top ~1500 and it only gets progressively harder from there
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Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 05 2020 11:15 GMT
#206651
I think many people would like to see a female pro player. I can see any physical disadvantages that should make it harder to succeed . Feel that if a female get into top 200 EU they would get a chance pretty fast for all the publicity it would bring to the org.

That brings another topic to mind, are you guys in favor for a female dota league system.
I myself don't really like it, as i can't see any gender based advantages that would call for it.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 05 2020 12:21 GMT
#206652
Gender based leagues in video games seems silly.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 05 2020 17:09 GMT
#206653
So my wife loves guinea pigs and since we have our own house she wanted one(at apartment it was 700$ a year to have one). We got one from a rescue shelter, learned they need partners (herd animals. It is apparently so bad for them it is illegal to have only one in some places in Europe).

We got a male so they need a female one to be sure they'll get along, took us a while to find a place with them that wasn't just a pet store (it was one that bought babies sometimes, but all their adults were from bad homes). We got an adult one on Saturday. She seemed pretty chill... But looked kinda pregnant from some angles. Only some - from most she didn't look pregnant at all. We are keeping them in separate cages for a week or two to prevent illness from spreading.

So it turns out she was extremely pregnant and gave birth this morning. She didn't look very pregnant because she only had one child. (The normal number is 2-6). So now I have 3 guinea pigs, one of which isn't even a day old.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
August 05 2020 17:16 GMT
#206654
On August 06 2020 02:09 Nevuk wrote:
So my wife loves guinea pigs and since we have our own house she wanted one(at apartment it was 700$ a year to have one). We got one from a rescue shelter, learned they need partners (herd animals. It is apparently so bad for them it is illegal to have only one in some places in Europe).

We got a male so they need a female one to be sure they'll get along, took us a while to find a place with them that wasn't just a pet store (it was one that bought babies sometimes, but all their adults were from bad homes). We got an adult one on Saturday. She seemed pretty chill... But looked kinda pregnant from some angles. Only some - from most she didn't look pregnant at all. We are keeping them in separate cages for a week or two to prevent illness from spreading.

So it turns out she was extremely pregnant and gave birth this morning. She didn't look very pregnant because she only had one child. (The normal number is 2-6). So now I have 3 guinea pigs, one of which isn't even a day old.

There was this Twitter trend a few days ago about how 1+1 can equal 3 because one could be a pregnant mother, and this is applicable to that.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-05 17:44:33
August 05 2020 17:44 GMT
#206655
Grats on being a grandpa :3
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 05 2020 17:56 GMT
#206656
Well, at least it's really cute. Damn hard to get a good picture of though (it's mother likes to hide in its box and take it with her, so I can only get peeks. No idea of gender. Hopefully female).

Couple pics I got:
https://imgur.com/a/wzTGZZz

(We have a much bigger cage that the other cavy is in at the moment, that we'll be putting them all in eventually).

Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 05 2020 18:02 GMT
#206657
I can only make out the babys presence by its hellish red eyes lmao
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 05 2020 18:11 GMT
#206658
Ah here's a better one my wife took :
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
August 06 2020 00:37 GMT
#206659
tiny lil pig
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-06 00:45:49
August 06 2020 00:44 GMT
#206660
Last pictures of it I swear (finally got some decent ones) :
https://imgur.com/a/mECdpMv
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[image loading]

The mother we adopted was apparently seized by social services along with 5 other guinea pigs and the owner was taking terrible care of them (very small cages with each being isolated alone)
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