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Firebolt145
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harodihg
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On June 26 2020 04:07 TheEmulator wrote: A couple of weeks ago when the BLM protests started I brought Toby up in a discord channel, wondering how he hasn't been cancelled yet for his "n word baby" comments 10+ years ago. Well.... here we are lol. Just got cancelled for something else instead  I think this is a pretty bad assessment to make, not gonna lie We likely have very wildly different, and nuanced views on morality on cases/situations like this - where mine is far more intent, and outcome based and viewed far more closely through a lens of morality versus one of lawful judgment. I don't care that he once upon a time wrote the N word in a tone deaf joke, I care that he's disregarded the humanity of others | ||
TheEmulator
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On June 26 2020 04:57 harodihg wrote: I think this is a pretty bad assessment to make, not gonna lie We likely have very wildly different, and nuanced views on morality on cases/situations like this - where mine is far more intent, and outcome based and viewed far more closely through a lens of morality versus one of lawful judgment. I don't care that he once upon a time wrote the N word in a tone deaf joke, I care that he's disregarded the humanity of others For what it's worth I wasn't making an assessment. I also don't care about singular comments made years ago when it seemed like he had moved past it. I was just simply mentioning that I was surprised the angry mob a few weeks ago didn't dig that one up. The discussion wasn't "fuck tobi I hope he gets exposed", but rather "holy shit remember when tobi said that thing, I wonder if anyone remembers lol" | ||
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harodihg
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It's kind of weird seeing so many people still around that I've known, albeit only lightly, for years and years | ||
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TheEmulator
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On June 26 2020 05:12 harodihg wrote: Fair enough! I think my comment sounded far more grating and negative than I had meant it to anyway It's kind of weird seeing so many people still around that I've known, albeit only lightly, for years and years No problem. On another note, given how active you used to be on the NAdota forums how do you feel with what's going on right now? | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
This tweets too legendary to not share | ||
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rabidch
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![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/u0rAXIH.jpg) classic jimmy. its 3 days now | ||
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Erasme
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PhoenixVoid
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PassiveAce
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Emnjay808
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Edit: Can someone explain what alt right incel means? | ||
dravernor
Netherlands6192 Posts
On June 27 2020 02:04 PassiveAce wrote: Lotta alt-right/incel shit going around these days It is truly disgusting. I'm currently watching The Alt-Right Handbook (by Innuendo Studios) on Youtube and I've learnt a lot that I didn't really know how to process when seeing it in real life. Edit: @Emnjay you can check this out | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
On June 27 2020 02:12 dravernor wrote: It is truly disgusting. I'm currently watching The Alt-Right Handbook (by Innuendo Studios) on Youtube and I've learnt a lot that I didn't really know how to process when seeing it in real life. That's on my watchlist as well. I'm considering withdrawing from the discussion because it distracts me from my own problems... I guess this is just an apology in advance for not staying engaged. I can't stand giving the haters so much ground. | ||
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andyrau
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funny & tragic how the one accusation that (i think?) started it all is the least damning, and that one person's lack of credibility makes it harder for others to come out because they automatically get heaped into the same category by people who leap to conclusions. | ||
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Nevuk
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PassiveAce
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Emnjay808
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Erasme
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On June 27 2020 01:28 PhoenixVoid wrote: Interesting to see the CIS casters and community figures respond to the events unfolding in Dota and seeing some Redditors latch on to their statements to spout about how "feminized" Western society is or how Tobi is being persecuted unfairly. How is that surprising knowing the amount of homophobia running around in russia ? People are always so surprised when they hear dumb shit coming from cn/ru/middle east, but those guys are racists/homophobic as fuck. The western society is probably one of the most progressive tbh. | ||
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TheEmulator
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On June 27 2020 06:16 Erasme wrote: How is that surprising knowing the amount of homophobia running around in russia ? People are always so surprised when they hear dumb shit coming from cn/ru/middle east, but those guys are racists/homophobic as fuck. The western society is probably one of the most progressive tbh. Yea we were talking about this in the LD staff slack channel and a couple of our CIS staff basically said the general opinion in CIS atm (not their opinion to make it clear) is that women are "literally ruining dota" lol | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32747 Posts
On June 27 2020 06:16 Erasme wrote: How is that surprising knowing the amount of homophobia running around in russia ? People are always so surprised when they hear dumb shit coming from cn/ru/middle east, but those guys are racists/homophobic as fuck. The western society is probably one of the most progressive tbh. I didn't say it was surprising. In fact, it largely aligned with what I expected from most of the Eastern Europeans (and more Germans than expected honestly) on TL/LD and Reddit where they would be likelier to express skepticism about the cases. I hate to make broad cultural judgements on an area as wide as Eastern Europe, but from my unscientific observations, they have fewer filters on being "politically correct" and on the whole, don't have the same mindset as liberal Western Europe and North America on women and harassment/sexual assault/rape. They're not approaching this matter from the same starting point as some of us with their arguments about the burden and problem being on the "groupies" and women in Dota. | ||
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