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grizzly110590
Profile Joined September 2019
3 Posts
September 24 2019 18:45 GMT
#202861
--- Nuked ---
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-25 00:13:43
September 25 2019 00:13 GMT
#202862
On September 24 2019 16:30 andyrau wrote:
oh my god ur such a mitski fanboy

?????????????? yes im a mitski fanboy?

also there are other artists with multiple albums on the list i am just saying
LiquidDota Staff
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-25 14:20:41
September 25 2019 14:18 GMT
#202863
On September 24 2019 19:59 PoulsenB wrote:
why would valve want playerbase to drop?

Exaggeration in my part but the removing solo doesnt really work as too many people play solo especially apparently in the highest mmrs.

Also yeah the party q not being taken as seriously as solo on ranked is quite true.

Btw glad midasmode is up. EE already entertaining on his 2nd game this season
this is a quote
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-25 14:49:25
September 25 2019 14:48 GMT
#202864
I just saw a full YouTube ad for a WoW classic level boosting service narrated by a guy with a bizarre French canadian accent. It's so funny that gold selling and account boosting are back
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7733 Posts
September 25 2019 14:57 GMT
#202865
Sometimes I consider getting into WoW but apparently current state of the game is pretty shit and I don't care for Classic at all
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 25 2019 15:01 GMT
#202866
On September 25 2019 23:48 PassiveAce wrote:
I just saw a full YouTube ad for a WoW classic level boosting service narrated by a guy with a bizarre French canadian accent. It's so funny that gold selling and account boosting are back

what? bro theres 15 year old games that are still thriving with gold selling
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-25 15:38:38
September 25 2019 15:34 GMT
#202867
Yeah, I'm really just talking about my nostalgia for WoW ads. It's been like 10 years since iv seen an ad for WoW account boosting. Watching it was just a blast from the past lol.
I thought blizz had kinda killed gold selling in regular WoW with massive inflation tho?

I had a friend who traded a $250 tf2 hat for the Kingdom of Loathing currency in like 2014 lol. I hope video game currency trading never dies
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
September 25 2019 15:54 GMT
#202868
As a young man with no disposable income and a barebones PC, playing browser-based MMOs like KoL was how I spent my time back then. I can distinctly remember asking my dad to buy me one of their microtransactions on my birthday, because I wanted to be cool with the monthly exclusive.

I wonder how they converted from meat to Steambucks. Was it like KoL microtransactions > meat value > USD or something.

I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-25 16:26:56
September 25 2019 16:21 GMT
#202869
I think the other guy put up 250USD worth of meat (I have no idea how they arrived at the amount, I assume it's based on the in game value of microtransactions) and they used some trusted redditor to do the exchange from both the steam and KoL accounts.

I also remember that my friend gambled a bunch of the meat away on the money making game pretty quickly
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7733 Posts
September 25 2019 19:23 GMT
#202870
tfw translating MLP fanfics leads you towards using CAT software to make your work more efficient
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-25 20:12:45
September 25 2019 20:05 GMT
#202871
Blizzard 'killed' gold selling/buying on retail by just making it legal and doing it themselves lol. You literally sell tokens you buy with real money on the auction house for gold that other people then can use to pay subs/put money on their bnet accounts. They then cracked down on all real money trading quite hard for the various boosts/carries that people buy from other people in game. Its one of the larger problems with retail atm is how insanely prevalent these various carries are. It is basically the only thing in trade chat besides general bs. But there are extensive communities of hardcore players who basically sell services to people for gold. /shrug. It is most of the economy.

As someone who still plays quite a bit (I'm in a 'bad' raiding guild that is halfway through mythic eternal palace, have max level neck and quite good gear) I've said before, WoW is pretty ok if you like somewhat serious raiding still. It's by far the best made part of the game. Heroic level raiding even though, let alone normal, is kind of unrewarding feeling because the gear is not very good, (ie. you can get equivalent ilvl gear gifted to you for nothing) so unless you actually have a group of people you like progressing with and hell to everyone else its pretty hard. (I can get a pug that will full clear heroic in 1.5 hours with zero wipes any night of the week, and at least I imagine this to be somewhat discouraging to a guild 'progressing' in heroic.) If you want to play with a small group of friends/solo there is really no rewarding content besides m+ or arena both of which while not in their best condition are still quite ok if you like them. Doing them solo is basically like solo q dota though, you have to have a high tolerance for many bad experiences with groups/partners and some very good ones. Not for everyone. For straightup casuals though, I have no idea why they would play the game. I suppose my definition of 'rewarding content' is basically some sort of increasing difficulty level with clear ways to measure progression. To take an example of an actual bad game, even Diablo3 has this for all investment levels. I dont see what it is anymore in WoW on the low end. Maybe it is different for other people.

This is why classic is popular atm. The casual content (leveling, farming gold, etc) actually feels rewarding. However it has the opposite problem where there is literally nothing to do at the highend atm so I dunno how long it will last. I mostly play classic though outside of when I have actual content on live to do.
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 03:07:22
September 26 2019 03:06 GMT
#202872
wait are we talking about KoL

im account 505084 had a 4 day hardcore ns11 ascension baby

yes i understand that by the end people were 2 daying but it was good at the time

kol kicked so much fucking ass some of the most fun I've ever had in a game community
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 03:54:17
September 26 2019 03:48 GMT
#202873
KoL was pretty awesome. Had one of the more positive and mature gaming communities I can ever remember and a good sense of humour. I still occasionally giggle at the Orc Chasm with pr0n enemies. I doubt it's exactly flourishing today though (just checked and only 120 people online). One of my dreams in that game was getting the Ninja pirate zombie robot, which I was never close to. I also played Twilight Heroes which was made from a KoL player and was one of the earlier ones on it (like I was # sub 200 I think?), though that one wasn't close to KoL in quality really.

Kind of a shame we can't get these web-based MMOs with a killer sense of humour and a tight-knit community with mostly reasonable adults in them anymore in today's gaming and tech environment. There's West of Loathing at least. Give that a try if you haven't.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 26 2019 12:05 GMT
#202874
KoL was/is the only funny game.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 26 2019 13:39 GMT
#202875
This new trump scandal is like a sopranos episode but if all of the characters were even dumber.

Just a bunch of dumb corrupt NYC crooks trying to muscle the president of Ukraine like he's the head of the Land Management Bureau of Newark.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 14:43:23
September 26 2019 14:07 GMT
#202876
On September 26 2019 05:05 Atreides wrote:
Blizzard 'killed' gold selling/buying on retail by just making it legal and doing it themselves lol. You literally sell tokens you buy with real money on the auction house for gold that other people then can use to pay subs/put money on their bnet accounts. They then cracked down on all real money trading quite hard for the various boosts/carries that people buy from other people in game. Its one of the larger problems with retail atm is how insanely prevalent these various carries are. It is basically the only thing in trade chat besides general bs. But there are extensive communities of hardcore players who basically sell services to people for gold. /shrug. It is most of the economy.

As someone who still plays quite a bit (I'm in a 'bad' raiding guild that is halfway through mythic eternal palace, have max level neck and quite good gear) I've said before, WoW is pretty ok if you like somewhat serious raiding still. It's by far the best made part of the game. Heroic level raiding even though, let alone normal, is kind of unrewarding feeling because the gear is not very good, (ie. you can get equivalent ilvl gear gifted to you for nothing) so unless you actually have a group of people you like progressing with and hell to everyone else its pretty hard. (I can get a pug that will full clear heroic in 1.5 hours with zero wipes any night of the week, and at least I imagine this to be somewhat discouraging to a guild 'progressing' in heroic.) If you want to play with a small group of friends/solo there is really no rewarding content besides m+ or arena both of which while not in their best condition are still quite ok if you like them. Doing them solo is basically like solo q dota though, you have to have a high tolerance for many bad experiences with groups/partners and some very good ones. Not for everyone. For straightup casuals though, I have no idea why they would play the game. I suppose my definition of 'rewarding content' is basically some sort of increasing difficulty level with clear ways to measure progression. To take an example of an actual bad game, even Diablo3 has this for all investment levels. I dont see what it is anymore in WoW on the low end. Maybe it is different for other people.

This is why classic is popular atm. The casual content (leveling, farming gold, etc) actually feels rewarding. However it has the opposite problem where there is literally nothing to do at the highend atm so I dunno how long it will last. I mostly play classic though outside of when I have actual content on live to do.


As a casual, I have a pretty strong belief this game isn't meant for me. It takes a long time to level up, and then I believe the progression is to complete quest chains to get gear for dungeons, and then dungeon gear for heroics. Sadly, I don't have that much time/effort to spend on WoW, and certainly don't have a play group to try to handle 40 man raids even if I get that far. And that's fine, because I have the ability to choose between classic and retail.

To counter the point about normal/heroic gear being bad though, I think that's just because we are on patch 8.2.5 by now, and that Blizzard wants to just accelerate us into having "good" gear for the upcoming raids, more than the structure of the game being bad. If you stayed around Kul Tiras to level up, you'd notice improvements. I mean granted, it's a massive waste of time since you can just do Najzatar for much better stuff, but I think that's just a problem with how Blizzard does power creep within an expansion. I noticed it a bit during Warlords of Draenor as well. I super agree that there's not a lot that feels rewarding outside raids/dungeons though, I haven't even picked up my professions because it doesn't seem all that interesting.

For reference as to why I still do the "bad" content: I don't have flying unlocked but a buddy of mine does, so me doing the random dungeons can still actually be useful for the time being. Although maybe I should just man up instead and do the Pathfinder stuff.

Weeb shit: + Show Spoiler +
Azur Lane is getting a PC release made by the Hyperdimension Neptunia devs that's coming to the West in 2020 and probably a PC port in late 2020.
A manga I've followed for a while has a super disappointing ending and that end of an era type of feeling has made me want to read more manga to wash away the sin. :S
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
September 26 2019 15:41 GMT
#202877
US politics/Trump stuff open at your own risk
+ Show Spoiler +
All these Redditors having their justice boner over the impeachment inquiry, thinking, "This time we got him!" should probably prepare for the high possibility this also ends up like a repeat of Mueller's investigation. Maybe I'm wrong like with most of my political predictions, but I've seen where the Reddit liberal hivemind goes and it rarely ends up where they want it to be.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 15:54:11
September 26 2019 15:53 GMT
#202878
This is much worse than the Mueller stuff. He's definitely getting impeached (there's already majority in favor, before the latest insane stuff in the whistleblower report), and there's even a non zero chance he gets convicted. The second part is extremely unlikely though (I saw some operative talking about holding a secret ballot in the Senate being the only way lol).

Impeachment has never removed a president from office because the threshold for conviction is SUPER high. Andrew Johnson, who by most accounts literally committed treason(by the US definition of aiding a country that we were at war with) still got off by 1 vote (he was a confederate sympathizer right after the civil war).

Personally, I'd be fine I'd the threshold were a little lower, even it had meant that Clinton had gotten removed from office. His behavior was pretty awful.

The people acting like it is the end of his presidency 100% are delusional though.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
September 26 2019 16:39 GMT
#202879
Technically no one has ever been impeached, but it caused nixon to resign so good enough.
© Current year.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
September 26 2019 20:18 GMT
#202880
Can anyone relay a msg to Mav for me? I dont have his contact details and ostensibly he's still without internet.
I'd be able to go to Glasgow on either Saturday or Sunday.
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