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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 02 2012 01:01 GMT
#18741
On September 02 2012 09:51 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 09:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On September 02 2012 07:19 LancerJ wrote:
On September 02 2012 06:50 Qbek wrote:
He actually couldn't have put the point into stats, there's a level limit on them too

Max points into stats is 10 but he stopped at 9.

EDIT: I don't know if there's a level limit on points into stats but it's not in effect at level 19 -
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[image loading]


Attributes level 10 is the maximum which he has in your picture. 20-21-22-23-24-25 is the last six points he needs to cap out on skillpoints. Three for each skill.

19 skillpoints:
10 stats+1+4+1+3=19

At some point he has to stop getting stats and get his mana break. Your stats max out every other level, starting from 1. Same as skills. At level 14, he has to go 1/3/1/2/7.


Don't you max blink at 7 in the burning build?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
September 02 2012 01:38 GMT
#18742
On September 02 2012 10:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 09:51 Heh_ wrote:
On September 02 2012 09:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On September 02 2012 07:19 LancerJ wrote:
On September 02 2012 06:50 Qbek wrote:
He actually couldn't have put the point into stats, there's a level limit on them too

Max points into stats is 10 but he stopped at 9.

EDIT: I don't know if there's a level limit on points into stats but it's not in effect at level 19 -
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Attributes level 10 is the maximum which he has in your picture. 20-21-22-23-24-25 is the last six points he needs to cap out on skillpoints. Three for each skill.

19 skillpoints:
10 stats+1+4+1+3=19

At some point he has to stop getting stats and get his mana break. Your stats max out every other level, starting from 1. Same as skills. At level 14, he has to go 1/3/1/2/7.


Don't you max blink at 7 in the burning build?

Burning build is 1-1-1 then stats for as long as you need them.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 02 2012 01:45 GMT
#18743
You max blink by ~10, when you get bfury.
WriterXiao8~~
borlee
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Liechtenstein246 Posts
September 02 2012 02:01 GMT
#18744
why do pros play without sound?
i just saw navi and iG play without sound expect 1 player from each team
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
September 02 2012 02:03 GMT
#18745
On September 02 2012 11:01 borlee wrote:
why do pros play without sound?
i just saw navi and iG play without sound expect 1 player from each team

to be able to communicate with each other better
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 02 2012 02:09 GMT
#18746
On September 02 2012 09:50 Roflhaxx wrote:
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On September 02 2012 09:21 NB wrote:
holy shit... just realize... v1at casting 16 hours a day... solo.... HOLY SHIT

So epic to listen to when navi wins games vs dk etc. He starts SCREAMING, like really screaming non-stop for 15 seconds out of joy.


I also love how he randomly goes silent when e.g. Naga ults or AM got the Aegis. And DENDI DAWAI DAWAI DENY and stuff like that. He doesn't observe, he lives this stuff. From an interview:
I know around five words in Spanish, but I love to watch football in Spanish TV channels because the casters are awesome. They live the game, their emotions are so epic, and some times you don't want to listen analysis, you just want listen to football with those “crazy dudes” at other side of microphone. I think that is the main reason why a lot of non-Russians are following my streams. Almost every game I am trying to make it "the special one", I am trying to push listeners to cheer for one of the teams.

I listened to him for the first time today and damn, I'm a fanboy now. <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 02 2012 05:56 GMT
#18747
So with mTw's current roster issues, I was wondering what sort of roster changes would happen post TI2. My first thoughts immediately went to SyndereN and mTw. For whatever reason, the members of mTw didn't like SyndereN's drafting and leadership abilities (which blows my mind considering he lead his team to victories in two consecutive DH events and 2gd arena). Now I think that SyndereN's talents can be utilized at another camp that performed poorly at TI2, Mouz. I believe that if SyndereN replaced 1437 as their captain/drafter, Mouz would improve significantly. In addition to this, if Mouz were to somehow pick up KKY to replace Bamboe OR CWM, they would have one of the best line-ups in Europe. Not to mention that this would be like a reunion for KKY/Synd/Black because they used to all play together on OK (Online Kingdom).

Just some random thoughts I guess. Anyone else have some ideas?
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Forte
Profile Joined May 2009
Australia101 Posts
September 02 2012 06:42 GMT
#18748
Watchinig iG vs Na`Vi today we saw how crucial the bkb blackhole on enigma was to stealing tide's ultimate after naga sleep

However, I remember that one of the reasons that naga + tide was a really strong combo was because you would sleep, tide ulti, when they are all knocked up in the air you turn off the sleep and they take full damage and stun duration. This would usually lead to wipes of supports and squishy heroes etc. Especially watching today's match I realised how important it would have been. Question I'm asking is why didn't iG do this? heat of the moment? doesn't work in dota 2? (i remember trying it when naga came out and I was sure it worked). I can understand that bkb timing may have surprised them the first time though.
agvbaefSS
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 07:04:51
September 02 2012 07:04 GMT
#18749
On September 02 2012 15:42 Forte wrote:
Watchinig iG vs Na`Vi today we saw how crucial the bkb blackhole on enigma was to stealing tide's ultimate after naga sleep

However, I remember that one of the reasons that naga + tide was a really strong combo was because you would sleep, tide ulti, when they are all knocked up in the air you turn off the sleep and they take full damage and stun duration. This would usually lead to wipes of supports and squishy heroes etc. Especially watching today's match I realised how important it would have been. Question I'm asking is why didn't iG do this? heat of the moment? doesn't work in dota 2? (i remember trying it when naga came out and I was sure it worked). I can understand that bkb timing may have surprised them the first time though.


They didn't do that because they fucked up, basically if they had played it properly and had naga stand to the side and just net engima, the fight would easily have been 5-0 iG, but either he forgot, was overconfident, or he failed to check the enigma's items (since going bkb first is rather rare).

I asked xiao8 (the captain of LGD) about this and he thinks that Zhou just got overconfident
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
September 02 2012 07:11 GMT
#18750
On September 02 2012 14:56 Dubzex wrote:
So with mTw's current roster issues, I was wondering what sort of roster changes would happen post TI2. My first thoughts immediately went to SyndereN and mTw. For whatever reason, the members of mTw didn't like SyndereN's drafting and leadership abilities (which blows my mind considering he lead his team to victories in two consecutive DH events and 2gd arena). Now I think that SyndereN's talents can be utilized at another camp that performed poorly at TI2, Mouz. I believe that if SyndereN replaced 1437 as their captain/drafter, Mouz would improve significantly. In addition to this, if Mouz were to somehow pick up KKY to replace Bamboe OR CWM, they would have one of the best line-ups in Europe. Not to mention that this would be like a reunion for KKY/Synd/Black because they used to all play together on OK (Online Kingdom).

Just some random thoughts I guess. Anyone else have some ideas?

I've heard from someone that spoke to black that mouz will be disbanding after TI2.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
September 02 2012 07:18 GMT
#18751
Lots of teams disbanding maybe.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 02 2012 07:24 GMT
#18752
On September 02 2012 16:11 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 14:56 Dubzex wrote:
So with mTw's current roster issues, I was wondering what sort of roster changes would happen post TI2. My first thoughts immediately went to SyndereN and mTw. For whatever reason, the members of mTw didn't like SyndereN's drafting and leadership abilities (which blows my mind considering he lead his team to victories in two consecutive DH events and 2gd arena). Now I think that SyndereN's talents can be utilized at another camp that performed poorly at TI2, Mouz. I believe that if SyndereN replaced 1437 as their captain/drafter, Mouz would improve significantly. In addition to this, if Mouz were to somehow pick up KKY to replace Bamboe OR CWM, they would have one of the best line-ups in Europe. Not to mention that this would be like a reunion for KKY/Synd/Black because they used to all play together on OK (Online Kingdom).

Just some random thoughts I guess. Anyone else have some ideas?

I've heard from someone that spoke to black that mouz will be disbanding after TI2.

Interesting. But mouz really lacks individual talent. Same with a lot of western teams. coL needs to replace ixmike =P. I know that supports don't get a lot of respect, but mike is really out of place and is not good enough to be part of that team if they want to be a top contender. And hannah montanna needs to learn more than 2 heroes.

I'm guessing a TON of teams will reform or switch around soon. I'm hoping for a lot more talent to come up cause the older veterans don't take the game as seriously anymore.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 02 2012 07:32 GMT
#18753
On September 02 2012 16:18 flamewheel wrote:
Lots of teams disbanding maybe.

Likely.

I would say that all the teams not in the top 4, including DK will probably have a change in the roster. The only team I can't immediately imagine some roster swap is coL.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 07:39:44
September 02 2012 07:39 GMT
#18754
Also maelk pretty much said he was retiring. Inc EG.Bdiz?
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
September 02 2012 07:44 GMT
#18755
speculations, speculations
Deleted User 281514
Profile Joined August 2012
68 Posts
September 02 2012 07:57 GMT
#18756
Song of the Siren + Ravage doesn't work the same way in Dota2. If you don't remove the SoS before you Ravage ; it's just a wasted Ravage. Same for Venomancer's gale & nova - you used to be able to apply them through the SoS - Dota2 has certain different mechs. But the iG vs Na`Vi games were just clear miscommunication from iG squad.
Technique is what you fall back on when you run out of inspiration
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 02 2012 08:34 GMT
#18757
Ok.... so why is Na'Vi winning??? They're not practicing NEARLY as much as the other teams, yet they're still able to beat them. Is it just superb talent of the players? Puppey's picks? The synergy between them? All of this together? I don't know, but I'd love to know, because something is clearly not right here...
super gg
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 08:39:11
September 02 2012 08:37 GMT
#18758
Puppey's picks. Talked to him today after the game briefly. Basically he said that Naga's Song + Tide Ravage is weak, but Naga Song + Black Hole is game-changing. Therefore, after they gave Naga away he took Enigma. When Naga pops song, Naga's team will clump. If you clump your own heroes together, enemy team has to clump more. With BKB Enigma to pop black hole, nothing can stop you. The song works in your favor.

I'm tired so I don't remember if this is against DK or iG. Point is, Puppey had some damn amazing picks. Juggernaut to push while Song is still level 1 and thus has a ridiculous cooldown? Worked pretty excellently.

iG needs to calm down. Ego showing from Ferrari and company. Zhou, as always, is a momentum-based farmer. Didn't finish his BKB for ages in game 3 against Na`Vi, and game was lost when he did finish it.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 02 2012 08:49 GMT
#18759
On September 02 2012 17:37 flamewheel wrote:
Puppey's picks. Talked to him today after the game briefly. Basically he said that Naga's Song + Tide Ravage is weak, but Naga Song + Black Hole is game-changing. Therefore, after they gave Naga away he took Enigma. When Naga pops song, Naga's team will clump. If you clump your own heroes together, enemy team has to clump more. With BKB Enigma to pop black hole, nothing can stop you. The song works in your favor.

I'm tired so I don't remember if this is against DK or iG. Point is, Puppey had some damn amazing picks. Juggernaut to push while Song is still level 1 and thus has a ridiculous cooldown? Worked pretty excellently.

iG needs to calm down. Ego showing from Ferrari and company. Zhou, as always, is a momentum-based farmer. Didn't finish his BKB for ages in game 3 against Na`Vi, and game was lost when he did finish it.

I guess that has to be the biggest part. I guess it's also in part Na'Vi's reputation that allows puppey to pick so well, other teams are pushed to ban weird heroes, which opens up the draft a lot.
super gg
borlee
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Liechtenstein246 Posts
September 02 2012 08:55 GMT
#18760
On September 02 2012 11:03 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 11:01 borlee wrote:
why do pros play without sound?
i just saw navi and iG play without sound expect 1 player from each team

to be able to communicate with each other better

ever heard of teamspeak? i mean u can hear stuff ingame
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