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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 15:55:29
September 01 2012 15:52 GMT
#18701
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/z681l/mtw_roster_changes/

If you ask me, this comment sums it all up:
"Team was at the top of the euro scene. Then news come of role changes; fmad becoming captain; funzi playing mid and semi carries, even morphling on a game...team fails terribly ever since."
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
September 01 2012 15:57 GMT
#18702
--- Nuked ---
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 16:06:15
September 01 2012 16:00 GMT
#18703
this is pretty common for any newly formed team in the western scene: lose and start blaming on each others. I think mTw core problem was not that they played badly but taking a vacation right after their bootcamp is a terrible idea. During their vacation period others team were training quite a lot. A lot of impact that KoTL wisp Naga(from top carry to ok-ish carry) and few other heroes also only appear during that period when they absent. This leads to a huge underperformance during the EU meet up WCG thing and then going to TI2 they cant really adapt to the new meta.

Even if they blame synd (tbh his mid position is quite questionable but it could be just hero picks), synd is pretty much the missing element that they were looking for after left Western Wolves: a good Alpha-as-fuck captain. You simply cant really get rid of synd since he is the face of mTw :-/

Best solution: man the fuck up, stop QQ-ing and practice harder.

edit: also this is why i dont want anyone who have experience in sc2 picking up dota2: a team sport game has a lot to do with player mentality managing, a slip up here and there they just turn against each other and you lost a team. Anyone who has experience in playing with a stable team would understand how hard it is to criticizing each others without losing friendship
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 01 2012 16:03 GMT
#18704
I think once they start with the whole I THINK UR BAD - NO YOU debate the team is already done until they solve that. Not trusting in someones ability to draft/lane/whatever can't give good results. On top of that they're now switching roles pretty much every single game - to me it seems they all play rather mediocre as a result.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 16:11:32
September 01 2012 16:09 GMT
#18705
Anyone knows when and where I can watch the vods for dk vs na'vi? Game started late last night and I was sleepy (around 5 am in the morning), and I've seen people even recommend games 2 and 3.

nvm i found them on youtube. Didn't think they would upload them so fast.

Also, if I view them as replays do I still get to hear what the commentator say?

Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 01 2012 16:10 GMT
#18706
Yes you can choose what commentary you want in the replay.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 01 2012 16:10 GMT
#18707

http://www.dota2.com/international/game/10/
here is vod and ingame replays and yeah you get commentary ingame if you watch replays
"Yeah buddy"
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 01 2012 16:10 GMT
#18708
On September 02 2012 01:09 akatama wrote:
Anyone knows when and where I can watch the vods for dk vs na'vi? Game started late last night and I was sleepy (around 5 am in the morning), and I've seen people even recommend games 2 and 3.

Also, if I view them as replays do I still get to hear what the commentator say?


Watch -> Tournament -> International -> Schedule View.

From there click the day you want (Friday), click "View" Match Page and then there's a "Watch Replay" button. I struggled a bit to find this at first, too. Some easier access to a "WATCH GAMES YOU MISSED" button would be cooler.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 01 2012 16:16 GMT
#18709
12:14 PM - Liquid`NB: winner bracket: 2 chinese, 1 sea, 1 EU
12:14 PM - Liquid`NB: seem about right
12:15 PM - Liquid`NB: racial balance just like sc2
12:15 PM - Liquid`NB: =))

thoughts?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
September 01 2012 16:16 GMT
#18710
Thanks for the quick replies.
Damn Valve spoiled the series for me, when i clicked on Schedule View I first saw today's games and saw the winner of the series by accident .
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
September 01 2012 16:22 GMT
#18711
On September 02 2012 01:16 NB wrote:
12:14 PM - Liquid`NB: winner bracket: 2 chinese, 1 sea, 1 EU
12:14 PM - Liquid`NB: seem about right
12:15 PM - Liquid`NB: racial balance just like sc2
12:15 PM - Liquid`NB: =))

thoughts?

Africa and South America missing imo
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 01 2012 16:44 GMT
#18712
On September 02 2012 01:16 akatama wrote:
Thanks for the quick replies.
Damn Valve spoiled the series for me, when i clicked on Schedule View I first saw today's games and saw the winner of the series by accident .


That is really funny. They advertise schedule view as spoiler free and then it links to current day spoiling all the results. #1 trolls ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 16:56:45
September 01 2012 16:56 GMT
#18713
On September 02 2012 01:03 r.Evo wrote:
I think once they start with the whole I THINK UR BAD - NO YOU debate the team is already done until they solve that. Not trusting in someones ability to draft/lane/whatever can't give good results. On top of that they're now switching roles pretty much every single game - to me it seems they all play rather mediocre as a result.

Exactly. An experienced team (or even individual) knows that when working as a team, if you ever start putting the blame on someone, things will degrade and you're doomed to fail. You have to man up and keep practicing the way the captain wants it, at least until after the competition is finished, else you'll just lose.
And putting the blame on Synderen is like the dumbest thing possible. Unless he's an scam and is acting completely different irl than on his stream and casts, he's a very smart and intelligent guy. He wasn't the best solomid in the world, but certainly not the worst either, and I don't remember him losing mid. I don't remember him raping mid either, but he was the definition of solid, and solid at pro level is good enough vs anyone.
Bleh, I was suspecting something like that when they started playing bad, fuck ego.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 01 2012 17:48 GMT
#18714
What a day for Dota 2 yesterday! We had over 400,000 simultaneous viewers online and thousands of visitors at Benaroya Hall watching some amazing matches. The best of 3 matches went the distance for all but one match – that match was LGD winning in two straight games and sending Orange down to the Loser Bracket


http://blog.dota2.com/2012/09/day-two-starts/
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 17:59:54
September 01 2012 17:55 GMT
#18715
Morphling got buff they said
AM too stronk they said

[image blocked]
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
September 01 2012 17:59 GMT
#18716
On September 01 2012 10:18 DeltaX wrote:
So, I was gona check out the dota 2 invite that valve sells to try and see what items come with it but I can't find it in the store. Did it get removed or am I blind?


For anyone asking this same question i just checked right now and the bundle seems to be back in the store :D
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
September 01 2012 18:01 GMT
#18717
On September 02 2012 02:59 Random_Guy09 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 10:18 DeltaX wrote:
So, I was gona check out the dota 2 invite that valve sells to try and see what items come with it but I can't find it in the store. Did it get removed or am I blind?


For anyone asking this same question i just checked right now and the bundle seems to be back in the store :D

Conspiracy theory: They're going to open up the game after the International, so they took down the bundle so people don't buy it two days before it goes free and get all mad. :p
you gotta dance
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 18:39:55
September 01 2012 18:19 GMT
#18718
wrong thread
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
September 01 2012 18:22 GMT
#18719
On September 02 2012 01:00 NB wrote:
this is pretty common for any newly formed team in the western scene: lose and start blaming on each others. I think mTw core problem was not that they played badly but taking a vacation right after their bootcamp is a terrible idea. During their vacation period others team were training quite a lot. A lot of impact that KoTL wisp Naga(from top carry to ok-ish carry) and few other heroes also only appear during that period when they absent. This leads to a huge underperformance during the EU meet up WCG thing and then going to TI2 they cant really adapt to the new meta.

Even if they blame synd (tbh his mid position is quite questionable but it could be just hero picks), synd is pretty much the missing element that they were looking for after left Western Wolves: a good Alpha-as-fuck captain. You simply cant really get rid of synd since he is the face of mTw :-/

Best solution: man the fuck up, stop QQ-ing and practice harder.

edit: also this is why i dont want anyone who have experience in sc2 picking up dota2: a team sport game has a lot to do with player mentality managing, a slip up here and there they just turn against each other and you lost a team. Anyone who has experience in playing with a stable team would understand how hard it is to criticizing each others without losing friendship


I think there was an interview with Chuan and he said the same thing. Western dota is more QQ.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 01 2012 19:23 GMT
#18720
On September 02 2012 03:01 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 02:59 Random_Guy09 wrote:
On September 01 2012 10:18 DeltaX wrote:
So, I was gona check out the dota 2 invite that valve sells to try and see what items come with it but I can't find it in the store. Did it get removed or am I blind?


For anyone asking this same question i just checked right now and the bundle seems to be back in the store :D

Conspiracy theory: They're going to open up the game after the International, so they took down the bundle so people don't buy it two days before it goes free and get all mad. :p

how great is valve of a company that conspiracy theories involving them are in favor of customers.
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