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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 29 2012 13:31 GMT
#18281
Vanguard has been nerfed so many times now that it becomes more worth it to just get tranquil boots + naked vitality booster for the same effect.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 29 2012 13:33 GMT
#18282
On many heroes where you would get vanguard, you would get heart later on anyway. Getting naked vitality makes it easier to build towards heart.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 29 2012 13:33 GMT
#18283
On August 29 2012 16:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 16:27 Porkz wrote:
Reading these inside jokes... I've missed so much :<

All you need to know is that ursa OP and that mangix is some retarded LoL hero

Don't even get me started on tequioa
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 29 2012 13:35 GMT
#18284
On August 29 2012 22:33 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 16:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 29 2012 16:27 Porkz wrote:
Reading these inside jokes... I've missed so much :<

All you need to know is that ursa OP and that mangix is some retarded LoL hero

Don't even get me started on tequioa

This is one I don't know about tbh
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 29 2012 13:35 GMT
#18285
On August 29 2012 22:35 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 22:33 Nevuk wrote:
On August 29 2012 16:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 29 2012 16:27 Porkz wrote:
Reading these inside jokes... I've missed so much :<

All you need to know is that ursa OP and that mangix is some retarded LoL hero

Don't even get me started on tequioa

This is one I don't know about tbh

It's the name of nature's prophet
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 29 2012 13:35 GMT
#18286
Tequioa Tequila?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
August 29 2012 13:51 GMT
#18287
How did they even come up with that name? doesn't rly matter, everyone calls NP Furion anyways... for now
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 29 2012 13:53 GMT
#18288
On August 29 2012 22:33 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 16:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 29 2012 16:27 Porkz wrote:
Reading these inside jokes... I've missed so much :<

All you need to know is that ursa OP and that mangix is some retarded LoL hero

Don't even get me started on tequioa


Ostarion is a terrible name for the manliest man without balls or a beard
ffxiv enjoyer
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 29 2012 13:54 GMT
#18289
i think tequioa should be renamed tequila
we should start a petition
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 29 2012 13:54 GMT
#18290
On August 29 2012 22:51 KezseN wrote:
How did they even come up with that name? doesn't rly matter, everyone calls NP Furion anyways... for now

Sequoia is the name of a California tree. Change one letter you get Tequoia...
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 29 2012 13:55 GMT
#18291
It's Tequoia, not Tequioa, so it's a pretty obvious play with Sequoia. Easily the worst of the new names. Carl obviously the best.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 29 2012 13:57 GMT
#18292
On August 29 2012 22:53 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 22:33 Nevuk wrote:
On August 29 2012 16:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 29 2012 16:27 Porkz wrote:
Reading these inside jokes... I've missed so much :<

All you need to know is that ursa OP and that mangix is some retarded LoL hero

Don't even get me started on tequioa


Ostarion is a terrible name for the manliest man without balls or a beard

Who is ostarion?

I never figured out the new names..
=Þ
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 14:00:48
August 29 2012 13:58 GMT
#18293
On August 29 2012 22:57 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 22:53 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:33 Nevuk wrote:
On August 29 2012 16:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 29 2012 16:27 Porkz wrote:
Reading these inside jokes... I've missed so much :<

All you need to know is that ursa OP and that mangix is some retarded LoL hero

Don't even get me started on tequioa


Ostarion is a terrible name for the manliest man without balls or a beard

Who is ostarion?

I never figured out the new names..


Leoric. It should be called Arnold, with the obvious ressurection line.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 29 2012 14:01 GMT
#18294
On August 29 2012 22:58 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 22:57 Heh_ wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:53 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:33 Nevuk wrote:
On August 29 2012 16:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 29 2012 16:27 Porkz wrote:
Reading these inside jokes... I've missed so much :<

All you need to know is that ursa OP and that mangix is some retarded LoL hero

Don't even get me started on tequioa


Ostarion is a terrible name for the manliest man without balls or a beard

Who is ostarion?

I never figured out the new names..


Leoric. It should be called Arnold, with the obvious ressurection line.

Now that's new. At least when I say SK, people won't ask, which one?

Then if I say Ostarion, people will ask, who?
=Þ
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
August 29 2012 14:43 GMT
#18295
On August 29 2012 21:10 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 16:45 LAN-f34r wrote:
Complete change of topic, but my friend suggested something interesting: necro rush on OD (and I guess silencer). The stats it provides are one you want for OD, being int and hp (via str) without mana regen, and it gives him a boost for mid game pushes. The stat:gold ratios aren't great compared to something like sheep, but its an interesting alternative for when you want the specific utility necro provides (small mana pool enemies that mana burn will shut down, invis heroes, blinks that can be stopped by sending them out to scout and hitting them, etc).

Welp, as OD you really need forcestaff and bkb. If you rush necro, you'll simply die in fight.


I mean after forcestaff. I also don't mean it as an every game item, just when sheep/bkb doesn't need to be rushed, and necro provides stuff your team is lacking.

I mean, necro units are really strong early on, and good in the current push meta. Could make OD viable in certain line ups.

On August 29 2012 22:23 akatama wrote:
Am I the only one who likes a fast vanguard on AM? The survivability it gives is huge, you can easily tower dive and tank creeps. While you do lack in creep farming compared to a standard bfury you can somewhat compensate with hero kills. You become a nightmare for all the low mana pool str/agi heroes early on.


Vanguard is just so inefficient for its cost. AMs second biggest strength is his farming speed with BF, if you don't want that why are you picking antimage? QoP provides a much stronger early game and scales well into late game as well, which is pretty much the same role you are trying to fill with vanguard antimage.

And vanguard --> BF is terrible due to the 2 RoHs being way overkill in the regen department.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
August 29 2012 14:46 GMT
#18296
On August 29 2012 22:54 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 22:51 KezseN wrote:
How did they even come up with that name? doesn't rly matter, everyone calls NP Furion anyways... for now

Sequoia is the name of a California tree. Change one letter you get Tequoia...


hmmm fair enough haha.. Furion will always sound better though
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 29 2012 14:55 GMT
#18297
The venom top pick was quite predictable actually. The thing is most carry-oriented team wana have a great support to shut down some early game tower diving bullshit that you could just do with enchan + tanky(NS panda) + stun(SK VS) from level 1 in the offensive tri lane(seen in several top EU teams). The hero has a sick sick counter pushing mechanic for turle and most of all his slow goes through BKB. The main problem is that to utilize the ulti well, you have to drag out the teamfight and that itself requires some sick AoE train meaning your line up has to get a lot of level early on. So you wana have a good late game carry while still maintain sick AoE teamfight control -> Dark Seer, Naga top ban pick -_-..... Enigma would synergy well too but Rubick can counter him way too easy.

Compare to CM pick, Venom is just way better all round bc he can farm the ancient very early on provide additional income to team. If you watch games of mTw, the especially reserve their ancient camp for venom to just sit there 5-10mins and level up.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 29 2012 15:01 GMT
#18298
NB are you still posting in the wrong thread?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 29 2012 15:05 GMT
#18299
no... just wana continue the discussion 2 pages ago where smbody said venom OP bc he is top pick...

now i am thinking of a line up that gona have enigma as a carrier: rush rosh->rad + mek(optional) +heart +bkb, draft rubick first.
Lane as aggressive as possible and win around 22 mins mark....
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 29 2012 15:09 GMT
#18300
Ok lol that post was just so out of context that it threw me off.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
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