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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 23 2012 14:49 GMT
#17741
On August 23 2012 22:42 NB wrote:
[image loading]
From navi facebook page xD

remind me of this for some reason:
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
August 23 2012 14:50 GMT
#17742
On August 23 2012 23:42 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 23:17 Kupon3ss wrote:
I keep reading things about Zenith being BM but I just don't see it. They're confident and somewhat troll but they've become far more refined and mannered. Enjoying trolling people isn't really a sign of being BM.

The first game of Hyhy I ever saw involved a pair of fake 5-man ggs into almost comeback in 2007, so yeah, those SG boys have come a long way.

Not banning heros. Going all mid and feeding and then just leaving. Getting a standin with the name islaygays. Generally trashtalking other teams. Dropping out of several tournaments after having agreed to play them.

I can see the appeal to the younger audience that think that kind of dumb behaviour is cool.


What western team hasn't run games with multiple standins?
the islaygays incident is something caused by the other team being unwilling to delay a game for an hour (in a tournament where western teams were routinely showing up hours late with multiple standins) and them having to find somebody on the spot, which they apologized for later
Not banning heroes is a completely legit strategy when used with consideration of the relative hero pools that the teams are able to play.
How is dropping out of tournaments BM, especially when much of it is in response to the standin incident, inoperable hours, and the fact that 400 ping dota (lol EU teams demanding USE) a sign of BM? Teams routinely drop out of tournaments for much sillier reasons like "unable to get up before 10am"
I'm not saying that they're the face of professional DotA, but people from the EU/NA scene somehow singling Zenith out as a "BM" team are just pots calling the kettle black
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
August 23 2012 14:56 GMT
#17743
Have they decresed item drops lately? Aint really played for a week and past 5 or so games there is 1-2 drops. Before there was like 2 normal items and 0-4 chests oO. Bad luck I guess?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 23 2012 14:57 GMT
#17744
I think they did tweak drops after the first few weeks. it used to be like 1-2 items plus like 4-5 chests per game, now it is just 1-3 random items/chests per game.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 23 2012 14:58 GMT
#17745
Noticed less drops too
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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
August 23 2012 15:00 GMT
#17746
untill sponsors start caring about bm there's nothing we can do about it
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 15:01:37
August 23 2012 15:01 GMT
#17747
On August 24 2012 00:00 cilinder007 wrote:
untill sponsors start caring about bm there's nothing we can do about it

EMAIL THE SHIT OUT OF SPONSORS
+ Show Spoiler +
lol jk
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
August 23 2012 15:02 GMT
#17748
Thats a shame. But it sucks playing a 50 minute game to have 1 item drop. On top of that playing 4-5 and then only getting an item cause you level up.

You get items far less frequently in this than you do in TF2.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 23 2012 15:03 GMT
#17749
Items in TF2 affect gameplay, here not at all
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 15:24:05
August 23 2012 15:07 GMT
#17750
Lol.... comewithme is so fucking sad right now....

Ohh, the irony these days.. now the lawyers valve hired for this replied regarding the visa, not even sure if i should laugh or what do now =D But no, its pretty certain that i'm not going to Seattle still.


Honestly, my interest for dota right now is close to zero, played few games today and i felt nothing but leaving and not giving a fuck.. it sucks dick to give up on alot of things for something and then get denied the opportunity to even have a chance to show what you've been working at for a long time


well it seems like ComeWithMe...
(•_•)
( •_•)>⌐□-□
(⌐□_□)
can't come with them!

Yeah!!!
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 15:32:41
August 23 2012 15:32 GMT
#17751
Didn't they get denied the opportunity when they lost the qualifiers and not not get a visa since everyone managed to get visas? Seems like he's being overly dramatic now for no real reason. His going at this stage was more just to be at the event not compete so he would never have shown "what he was working for"? Unless he knows something I don't and they really are going to play
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 23 2012 15:38 GMT
#17752
He was there last year and now there's some bullshit bureaucracy being the only thing stopping him from going again. Ofc he's sad/mad
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
August 23 2012 15:42 GMT
#17753
In other news, the Chinese have mostly departed
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
August 23 2012 15:49 GMT
#17754
Where is the iG pennant ARGH
High Risk Low Reward
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 23 2012 16:28 GMT
#17755
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/yo1k6/how_often_do_comebacks_happen_in_pro_dota_2_with/

very interesting read.

A LoL player calculated MLG stats for how often a team cameback from a 10% gold disadvantage at 12m mark and he calculated that the 'snowball' effect in LoL was very, very high (as expected)

47-3-5

Those were the findings for MLG LoL Arena. Basically showing that comebacks rarely, if ever happen in LoL.


So some guy did this for Dota as well using all of the games from the defense. Using the same criteria at least 10% gold lead by 12m, he found the disadvantaged team actually ended up winning 26% of the time. Highlighting that comebacks are much more prevelent and capable in Dota than LoL.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 16:35:17
August 23 2012 16:34 GMT
#17756
interesting statistics, I always suspected something like this since i migrated from LoL to Dota, I wonder what causes it.
please no game vs game though.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 16:51:17
August 23 2012 16:36 GMT
#17757
Can we not have LoL vs Dota arguments here, it shits up the thread/forum. Keep LoL out of this please, interested to hear results anyway.
WriterXiao8~~
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 23 2012 16:45 GMT
#17758
Wait was it posted by THE Motbob?
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Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
August 23 2012 16:52 GMT
#17759
On August 24 2012 01:45 Qbek wrote:
Wait was it posted by THE Motbob?


Looks like it.
And I think (one of) the reasons why comebacks happen more in dota than in lol is simply because you lose gold when you die, so picking people off sets the other team back a lot more.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
August 23 2012 16:53 GMT
#17760
Also what happened with TLIH, I was just feeling like putting my tryhard hat on and the thread's not stickied anymore? Did it just die from inactivity or something?
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