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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 21 2012 22:38 GMT
#17541
Lightning bolt and his ultimate reveals, Static field doesn't.
WriterXiao8~~
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
August 21 2012 22:40 GMT
#17542
^^ Truth, people tend to not do that either. Know a stealther is around? Lightning bolt a creep to reveal him!
LiquidDota Staff
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 21 2012 22:43 GMT
#17543
The ult reveals but doesn't deal damage. Something people should really be aware of before trying out zeus vs mirana or some other invis heroes.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 21 2012 23:03 GMT
#17544
On August 22 2012 07:23 Nevuk wrote:
Tbh, I forgot this site had a starcraft section.

Sc2 section is just as bad as bnet forum to me ~~
Zeus deals 600 damage per person with only his static field. For me, he has 2problems. One is his lack of escapability, the other is his mana. Spamming bolt/chain will drain all of your mana. So I usually go forcestaff into bloodstone. Then agha into refresher. To be a real boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 21 2012 23:09 GMT
#17545
@ Nevuk

I was curious so looked up their dicussion. Admittidely, they are actually quite funny. I will watch the VOD from JP at some point, so will have to see what he said. to the point, it does seem funny how defensive some people get. they always seem to have been that way. Anyway, if tobi has managed to annoy some of the LoL players than it makes watching the real talk even more worth it.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 21 2012 23:11 GMT
#17546
btw link to the video/stream ?
and had the very first ever in my entire life encounter with brazilians. Welp, he seemed to hate mexicans. Also went afk, stole aegis (gave me his tp), fed. And yet we managed to win. DK too stronk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
August 21 2012 23:17 GMT
#17547
refresher does a total of 460(600)x5 + 350 + 11% of current hp x2 (lets round that to 150x5) = around a maximum of 3.5k-5k damage, assuming zues has mana to cast all of his spells. This can be done once every 6 minutes. Almost nothing else in the entire game gives as much burst damage as a refresher orb on zues.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 23:22:38
August 21 2012 23:18 GMT
#17548
On August 22 2012 08:11 Erasme wrote:
btw link to the video/stream ?
and had the very first ever in my entire life encounter with brazilians. Welp, he seemed to hate mexicans. Also went afk, stole aegis (gave me his tp), fed. And yet we managed to win. DK too stronk


At least for the Youtube page, he has not uploaded the Vod yet (and stream is already done). So will have to wait till then.



*It is not up but posting infos for future anyway.

itmeJP Twitch
JP's youtube channel

On his twitter, he says he is uploading now (50 min ago) and it is 3 hours long soo... might be a bit
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 21 2012 23:24 GMT
#17549
I'll see this tomorrow then :D
tyvm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 21 2012 23:37 GMT
#17550
On August 22 2012 08:17 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
refresher does a total of 460(600)x5 + 350 + 11% of current hp x2 (lets round that to 150x5) = around a maximum of 3.5k-5k damage, assuming zues has mana to cast all of his spells. This can be done once every 6 minutes. Almost nothing else in the entire game gives as much burst damage as a refresher orb on zues.

If you are talking about teamfight potential, leshrac has a ton more. He can walk in and spam all his spells, doing a lot more than 5k damage in a short span of time. He's also generally more useful in the game compared to Zeus.

If you want to talk about global ultis, Spectre can do more damage. Radiance burn, desolate, hits by the illusion itself, refraction.. And that's without refresher orb.

Or kunkka. Shadow walk crit for insta-rampage.
=Þ
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 23:48:09
August 21 2012 23:47 GMT
#17551
Zeus does that in 1sec. Lesh needs to get close and its a much longer span of time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
August 21 2012 23:51 GMT
#17552
On August 22 2012 08:47 Erasme wrote:
Zeus does that in 1sec. Lesh needs to get close and its a much longer span of time


Zeus also needs the levels and farm to get to that sort of damage. If he's shutdown then he doesn't do anything else for the game. If lesh is shutdown he can still be used to push towers. Even if he's behind in levels.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 23:54:01
August 21 2012 23:53 GMT
#17553
Also going refresher aghanim's on Zeus feels like a risky version of semi carry leshrac because at least semi carry leshrac doesn't have huge gaps in item needs. Leshrac can still build bloodstone and bkb in parts and be fine during the buildup. Refresher and Aghanim's only provide some survivability and mana regeneration and no escape or positioning abilities.
What does it matter how I loose it?
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 21 2012 23:55 GMT
#17554
anyone else's game keep crashing as a result of todays patch? making the background blue isnt really worth losing every game cuz of dcs every two minutes
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 21 2012 23:55 GMT
#17555
I know hes worse than lesh, im just saying his burst is much bigger :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 22 2012 00:05 GMT
#17556
Well, getting that much farm on zeus aint easy either.
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
August 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#17557
On August 22 2012 08:09 Nilrem wrote:
@ Nevuk

I was curious so looked up their dicussion. Admittidely, they are actually quite funny. I will watch the VOD from JP at some point, so will have to see what he said. to the point, it does seem funny how defensive some people get. they always seem to have been that way. Anyway, if tobi has managed to annoy some of the LoL players than it makes watching the real talk even more worth it.


I think it is funny how people care about what players of another game say about their game. I have played maybe 200 games of LoL and about 100 games of Dota, and I play dota because I prefer it. I don't hate on LoL because I think it's an alright game, and even if I thought it was bad I don't care because I'm not playing it.

Sure if you want to compare viewership numbers of pro games, or player base, then go ahead. No one wants to stop you from having an e-peen measuring contest. But I would rather spend my time playing Dota than complaining about LoL fans complaining about dota fans complaining about LoL. No need to get worked up over which game is better, just play.

The only exception to this is half life. If you trash talk half life I have to punch you in the colon.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 00:13:27
August 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#17558
Pudge with maximum Strength (whatever that means) and 6 Bfuries does the most burst damage in the game

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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 22 2012 00:13 GMT
#17559
Zeus is one of my favourite heroes, love his 3rd skill, making him a viable late game intel hero and one of the best counter to tanky heroes. While i miss the mountain king model from dota1, the sound effect of the ulti of Dota2's zeus nearly gives me heart attack and i love it!!!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
August 22 2012 00:14 GMT
#17560
Any1 know why the Alpine Ravage set for Ursa is removed from today's patch?

http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/August_21,_2012_Patch

also, nice dashboard :D
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