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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 17 2012 10:35 GMT
#17001
On August 17 2012 19:23 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 18:53 PrinceXizor wrote:
just a shame the starseries has only 1 team total from the top 2 countries in dota 2 right now(china USA)

China vs rest online sux too hard. Starladder and the Defense are highly rated because they don't have ping problems and the results are "legit" imo.

yes, not to mention that dota2 in china is still a speck compared to dota
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 17 2012 10:58 GMT
#17002
On August 17 2012 19:21 Kipsate wrote:
Well you usually divide by region (NA, EU, or EU and CIS, China and SEA)

so I was a little confused.


You only divide by region when USA wins

Country when EU would win if it was by region
"Yeah buddy"
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 17 2012 11:45 GMT
#17003
[image loading]

This is the ingame BoX score. A little bit small but looks good. No bo7or higher but that's not very common in dota
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
August 17 2012 11:49 GMT
#17004
On August 17 2012 20:45 Qbek wrote:
[image loading]

This is the ingame BoX score. A little bit small but looks good. No bo7or higher but that's not very common in dota

i would love to see a bo7 dota

would encourage more crazy stats

of course that means potential 7-10 hours of streaming for one bo7 lol

anyway neat add-on to that UI
POGGERS
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
August 17 2012 11:51 GMT
#17005
--- Nuked ---
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 17 2012 11:52 GMT
#17006
You know those bo51 grudge matches? In dota it would actually take a week at least
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 17 2012 11:55 GMT
#17007
On August 17 2012 19:58 Ramong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 19:21 Kipsate wrote:
Well you usually divide by region (NA, EU, or EU and CIS, China and SEA)

so I was a little confused.


You only divide by region when USA wins

Country when EU would win if it was by region

you euros keep acting like i had some agenda and was manipulating stats when i was just pointing out the meager representation from the top countries in dota while over-representation in a former powerhouse. the point is the starseries is the two top europe teams + and 1 from USA and 1 mediocre SEA team and filler europe teams. with no chinese representation and not even the top usa team right now. I'll be passing on star series as entertainment since all but 3 teams will produce pretty bad games. and so until those 3 matchups happen, it's not really going to be quality.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#17008
coL didn't even manage to compete in pro series at high level and now suddenly they are a top team..
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 17 2012 12:06 GMT
#17009
On August 17 2012 21:01 Yoshi- wrote:
coL didn't even manage to compete in pro series at high level and now suddenly they are a top team..

na'vi seem to think so.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 12:07:42
August 17 2012 12:07 GMT
#17010
What does that even mean?
Did they won a random match against navi or what?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 17 2012 12:09 GMT
#17011
On August 17 2012 21:07 Yoshi- wrote:
What does that even mean?
Did they won a random match against navi or what?

puppey said col can make top 3 in TI2 also they beat na'vi incredibly convincingly multiple times.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 17 2012 12:12 GMT
#17012
On August 17 2012 20:55 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 19:58 Ramong wrote:
On August 17 2012 19:21 Kipsate wrote:
Well you usually divide by region (NA, EU, or EU and CIS, China and SEA)

so I was a little confused.


You only divide by region when USA wins

Country when EU would win if it was by region

you euros keep acting like i had some agenda and was manipulating stats when i was just pointing out the meager representation from the top countries in dota while over-representation in a former powerhouse. the point is the starseries is the two top europe teams + and 1 from USA and 1 mediocre SEA team and filler europe teams. with no chinese representation and not even the top usa team right now. I'll be passing on star series as entertainment since all but 3 teams will produce pretty bad games. and so until those 3 matchups happen, it's not really going to be quality.


Sorry, wasn't really serious

Please don't be so mad at me...
"Yeah buddy"
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 17 2012 12:14 GMT
#17013
On August 17 2012 21:12 Ramong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 20:55 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 17 2012 19:58 Ramong wrote:
On August 17 2012 19:21 Kipsate wrote:
Well you usually divide by region (NA, EU, or EU and CIS, China and SEA)

so I was a little confused.


You only divide by region when USA wins

Country when EU would win if it was by region

you euros keep acting like i had some agenda and was manipulating stats when i was just pointing out the meager representation from the top countries in dota while over-representation in a former powerhouse. the point is the starseries is the two top europe teams + and 1 from USA and 1 mediocre SEA team and filler europe teams. with no chinese representation and not even the top usa team right now. I'll be passing on star series as entertainment since all but 3 teams will produce pretty bad games. and so until those 3 matchups happen, it's not really going to be quality.


Sorry, wasn't really serious

Please don't be so mad at me...

not mad. i'm just surprised at the number of "must be because it makes usa the best" comments, there were like 3-4 of them nearly in a row. xD wasn't you specifically just the number of them xD. i even said europe as a continent has NA beat.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 12:16:10
August 17 2012 12:14 GMT
#17014
On August 17 2012 21:09 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 21:07 Yoshi- wrote:
What does that even mean?
Did they won a random match against navi or what?

puppey said col can make top 3 in TI2 also they beat na'vi incredibly convincingly multiple times.

Puppey said that everything is changing and that teams like coL who were bad a month ago are now doing better and could potential be under the top3.
And just cause coL is doing good at it doesn't mean that there are a top teams. Starladder requires teams to do good for a long amount of time and now only a month of semicore sucess,
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 17 2012 12:19 GMT
#17015
On August 17 2012 21:14 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 21:09 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 17 2012 21:07 Yoshi- wrote:
What does that even mean?
Did they won a random match against navi or what?

puppey said col can make top 3 in TI2 also they beat na'vi incredibly convincingly multiple times.

Puppey said that everything is changing and that teams like coL who were bad a month ago are now doing better and could potential be under the top3.
And just cause coL is doing good at it doesn't mean that there are a top teams. Starladder requires teams to do good for a long amount of time and now only a month of semicore sucess,

mowcow 5 hasn't been anywhere near good in months and they were invited. :/ it's just pretty much a joke to me the list of teams.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 17 2012 12:22 GMT
#17016
It is not invite only
it is a league

The last 2 places go to pro series and the top 2 from proseries advance to starseries, nobody gets invited. Moscow 5 managed to qualify for both lan finals, while col didn't came close to top 2 in pro series.

How would it make sense to kick the team that qualified for both lan events and invite a team that has issues in proseries?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 17 2012 12:25 GMT
#17017
On August 17 2012 21:22 Yoshi- wrote:
It is not invite only
it is a league

The last 2 places go to pro series and the top 2 from proseries advance to starseries, nobody gets invited. Moscow 5 managed to qualify for both lan finals, while col didn't came close to top 2 in pro series.

How would it make sense to kick the team that qualified for both lan events and invite a team that has issues in proseries?

when trying to showcase the best current BW pros how would it make sense to invite yellow and grrr to play when bisu didn't qualify, because yellow and grrr did well in the past?
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 17 2012 12:25 GMT
#17018
On August 17 2012 21:14 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 21:12 Ramong wrote:
On August 17 2012 20:55 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 17 2012 19:58 Ramong wrote:
On August 17 2012 19:21 Kipsate wrote:
Well you usually divide by region (NA, EU, or EU and CIS, China and SEA)

so I was a little confused.


You only divide by region when USA wins

Country when EU would win if it was by region

you euros keep acting like i had some agenda and was manipulating stats when i was just pointing out the meager representation from the top countries in dota while over-representation in a former powerhouse. the point is the starseries is the two top europe teams + and 1 from USA and 1 mediocre SEA team and filler europe teams. with no chinese representation and not even the top usa team right now. I'll be passing on star series as entertainment since all but 3 teams will produce pretty bad games. and so until those 3 matchups happen, it's not really going to be quality.


Sorry, wasn't really serious

Please don't be so mad at me...

not mad. i'm just surprised at the number of "must be because it makes usa the best" comments, there were like 3-4 of them nearly in a row. xD wasn't you specifically just the number of them xD. i even said europe as a continent has NA beat.


That was exactly why I made my comment, because of the amount of people who wanted Europe to "win" over USA. :p

Think it is rather stupid to talk about what region/country got the most top teams, apart from some of the Chinese teams, DotA teams don't really seem to be that nationalistic.
"Yeah buddy"
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 17 2012 12:26 GMT
#17019
On August 17 2012 21:25 Ramong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 21:14 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 17 2012 21:12 Ramong wrote:
On August 17 2012 20:55 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 17 2012 19:58 Ramong wrote:
On August 17 2012 19:21 Kipsate wrote:
Well you usually divide by region (NA, EU, or EU and CIS, China and SEA)

so I was a little confused.


You only divide by region when USA wins

Country when EU would win if it was by region

you euros keep acting like i had some agenda and was manipulating stats when i was just pointing out the meager representation from the top countries in dota while over-representation in a former powerhouse. the point is the starseries is the two top europe teams + and 1 from USA and 1 mediocre SEA team and filler europe teams. with no chinese representation and not even the top usa team right now. I'll be passing on star series as entertainment since all but 3 teams will produce pretty bad games. and so until those 3 matchups happen, it's not really going to be quality.


Sorry, wasn't really serious

Please don't be so mad at me...

not mad. i'm just surprised at the number of "must be because it makes usa the best" comments, there were like 3-4 of them nearly in a row. xD wasn't you specifically just the number of them xD. i even said europe as a continent has NA beat.


That was exactly why I made my comment, because of the amount of people who wanted Europe to "win" over USA. :p

Think it is rather stupid to talk about what region/country got the most top teams, apart from some of the Chinese teams, DotA teams don't really seem to be that nationalistic.

russian teams like to win for russia, SEA teams like to win for their countries, everyone else tends to go for their team over their country.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 12:28:05
August 17 2012 12:27 GMT
#17020
On August 17 2012 21:25 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 21:22 Yoshi- wrote:
It is not invite only
it is a league

The last 2 places go to pro series and the top 2 from proseries advance to starseries, nobody gets invited. Moscow 5 managed to qualify for both lan finals, while col didn't came close to top 2 in pro series.

How would it make sense to kick the team that qualified for both lan events and invite a team that has issues in proseries?

when trying to showcase the best current BW pros how would it make sense to invite yellow and grrr to play when bisu didn't qualify, because yellow and grrr did well in the past?


Hey flash is not doing fine, lets replace him with a random guy who is winning a few matches.

M5 has qualified for both lan events why not invite them?
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