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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 16 2012 21:38 GMT
#16941
Ew is still the best build
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 22:13:40
August 16 2012 22:11 GMT
#16942
Season 3 of starladder announced. All star teams taking part :D

http://dota2.starladder.tv/news/1309

Natus Vincere	 KEITA	 Moscow Five	 MouseSports
CLG zNation Empire Evil Geniuses
CW SGC mTw Darer
Next.kz FnaticRC AL Virtus.pro


Also seems like v1lat will pay for tickets this time. So all team should be able to attend. Hello EG.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 23:01:13
August 16 2012 23:00 GMT
#16943
No Quantic or Complexity though

still kinda meh that V1lat's visa was denied for TI2, russians have to make do with the english commentators I guess.
Wonder if Virtus Pro is going to show up with a renewed roster.
WriterXiao8~~
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 16 2012 23:05 GMT
#16944
AL and Virtus.Pro... YEAH BUDDY.

they are not even inviting american power house and fill it with russian teams :-/ (PB, QxG, CoL gona stay home haizzzzz)
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 16 2012 23:07 GMT
#16945
Lack of PB and CoL makes me sad
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
August 16 2012 23:08 GMT
#16946
On August 17 2012 08:00 Kipsate wrote:
No Quantic or Complexity though

still kinda meh that V1lat's visa was denied for TI2, russians have to make do with the english commentators I guess.
Wonder if Virtus Pro is going to show up with a renewed roster.

Wait, didn't v1lat get accepted when he applied again? It says that he's going to be there on the TI2 caster page.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 16 2012 23:09 GMT
#16947
On August 17 2012 08:00 Kipsate wrote:
No Quantic or Complexity though

still kinda meh that V1lat's visa was denied for TI2, russians have to make do with the english commentators I guess.
Wonder if Virtus Pro is going to show up with a renewed roster.

What!?
No v1lat?
That makes me legit sad, i love his commentating.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
August 16 2012 23:09 GMT
#16948
Pretty obvious why they'd do that, they would play the online shit and then bail at last minute and not show up in the LAN finals like last time.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 23:14:05
August 16 2012 23:12 GMT
#16949
I thought he was declined, if its not then my apologies.

well is AL going to fly in (in the odd case that theyl make it to the lan), they are from bloody australia.

also Im unfamiliar with Starladder way of choosing teams, they may have something relevant to the previous seasons I assume.

On August 17 2012 08:13 SilverStar wrote:
v1lat got approved. Every other russian caster didn't (like 3: casparr, versuta and someone else I think).


then my apologies, great for the CIS community.
WriterXiao8~~
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
August 16 2012 23:13 GMT
#16950
v1lat got approved. Every other russian caster didn't (like 3: casparr, versuta and someone else I think).
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
August 16 2012 23:13 GMT
#16951
On August 17 2012 08:05 NB wrote:
AL and Virtus.Pro... YEAH BUDDY.

they are not even inviting american power house and fill it with russian teams :-/ (PB, QxG, CoL gona stay home haizzzzz)

Well they are mostly oriented towards to the russian community.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 16 2012 23:14 GMT
#16952
He was declined, I remember his tweet as well, but perhaps he was able to try again and got it on the second time, like Silent from M5?
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 16 2012 23:14 GMT
#16953
also on the QE invoker last page: when you choose to play invoker QE, you normally wana corver yourself in support. We have seen teams even lane him in short lane to make sure he is really hard to be ganked. QE invoker doesnt need mobility, you treat him like a very powerful semi carry that needs ton of farm and protection to get the damage output out. Split push lane with forge spirit guarding vision and take rosh when could. Once you get in hairy situation ghost walk/forcestaff/dagger out. Once you get forcestaff dagger, phase drum are huge waste. You probably will end up cancel the phase effect always into late game due to constantly spaming out new spells etc.

TLDR: QE invoker has a VERY different role from QW and people are playing him wrong.

p/s: this is why you dont play QE in pub: lack of mobility and require coordination disables to sunstrike get kill early game. The lack of understanding of positions in teamfight, timing in pub also hurt QE alot.

Sum up build: Tread, eul/medalion(if team has better medalion carrier get eul), dagger/forcestaff(optional), BKB, MKB/Deso/agh(deso for more split push, MKB for teamfight and kill, dont get agh if enemy has BKB).
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
August 16 2012 23:26 GMT
#16954
Found it.. Finally -_-

SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 16 2012 23:32 GMT
#16955
On August 17 2012 08:26 SilverStar wrote:
Found it.. Finally -_-

https://twitter.com/v1lat/status/230216305192599554

Yeah, this was the old one:
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
August 17 2012 00:19 GMT
#16956
Back to the invoker discussion, I personally go Phase > wand > drums > force staff > agha on QE (I never play QW). It works in all situations and the extra hp/mana you get from drums is also nice.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 17 2012 00:24 GMT
#16957
its like the entire last page was about people arguing Men vs Women and you jump in "TLDR LOL im gay"... thats not discussion -_-

also, cyborgmatt is messing with some sound files that it end up 'oppa techies style'....
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 00:27:45
August 17 2012 00:25 GMT
#16958
On August 17 2012 09:24 NB wrote:
its like the entire last page was about people arguing Men vs Women and you jump in "TLDR LOL im gay"... thats not discussion -_-

I reaaaaally cannot see the comparison here rofl

edit: I just saw your post above that had a bit more meat in it, I'll edit likewise ~
Moderator
Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
August 17 2012 01:41 GMT
#16959
Where do you find the change log in the dota 2 dev forums? I've looked everywhere but can't find them.
One bright day in the middle of the night, Two dead boys got up to fight; Back to back they faced each other, Drew their swords and shot each other.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 17 2012 01:41 GMT
#16960
On August 17 2012 08:14 NB wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
also on the QE invoker last page: when you choose to play invoker QE, you normally wana corver yourself in support. We have seen teams even lane him in short lane to make sure he is really hard to be ganked. QE invoker doesnt need mobility, you treat him like a very powerful semi carry that needs ton of farm and protection to get the damage output out. Split push lane with forge spirit guarding vision and take rosh when could. Once you get in hairy situation ghost walk/forcestaff/dagger out. Once you get forcestaff dagger, phase drum are huge waste. You probably will end up cancel the phase effect always into late game due to constantly spaming out new spells etc.

TLDR: QE invoker has a VERY different role from QW and people are playing him wrong.

p/s: this is why you dont play QE in pub: lack of mobility and require coordination disables to sunstrike get kill early game. The lack of understanding of positions in teamfight, timing in pub also hurt QE alot.

Sum up build: Tread, eul/medalion(if team has better medalion carrier get eul), dagger/forcestaff(optional), BKB, MKB/Deso/agh(deso for more split push, MKB for teamfight and kill, dont get agh if enemy has BKB).

I may just give this a go, definitely not the way I've ever thought of playing him
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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