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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
August 01 2012 02:22 GMT
#15641
On August 01 2012 10:03 NB wrote: Fucking US sever cant ever find games without assholes. Now aday i really prefer russian over majority of american dota.


i've actually found playing on sea is not only less laggy (in korea) but also has much less bm than usw, where i used to play a lot. it's weird... it's like there's been this recent spike of douchiness on usw
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
August 01 2012 02:22 GMT
#15642
Are you really sure they didn't have wards? Or that, despite being really really bad, they knew when lycan can rosh and started camping when it was possible?
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 01 2012 02:41 GMT
#15643
On August 01 2012 11:22 LAN-f34r wrote:
Are you really sure they didn't have wards? Or that, despite being really really bad, they knew when lycan can rosh and started camping when it was possible?


Probably best bet is to view replay. Will be able to see how natural their timings were and such. Wont be as obvious as like, map hacking. But it should give a clue to the timings and such.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
August 01 2012 02:42 GMT
#15644
On August 01 2012 11:10 Candadar wrote:
http://twitter.com/Dota2CalloutBot

heheheheheheheheheheheh

this is beyond humorous


Whaaaaaat?! lolol this is amazing! :D
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
Balinor
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand47 Posts
August 01 2012 02:48 GMT
#15645
Can someone tell me who the best pro player to watch to learn broodmother is? A match id would be especially appreciated!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 01 2012 02:50 GMT
#15646
Try and get your hands on match IDs from LightOfHeaven, SexyBamboe or Lacoste is my bet.
WriterXiao8~~
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 01 2012 02:52 GMT
#15647
On August 01 2012 11:22 zeehar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 10:03 NB wrote: Fucking US sever cant ever find games without assholes. Now aday i really prefer russian over majority of american dota.


i've actually found playing on sea is not only less laggy (in korea) but also has much less bm than usw, where i used to play a lot. it's weird... it's like there's been this recent spike of douchiness on usw


hello
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 01 2012 03:35 GMT
#15648
On August 01 2012 11:41 Nilrem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 11:22 LAN-f34r wrote:
Are you really sure they didn't have wards? Or that, despite being really really bad, they knew when lycan can rosh and started camping when it was possible?


Probably best bet is to view replay. Will be able to see how natural their timings were and such. Wont be as obvious as like, map hacking. But it should give a clue to the timings and such.

nah... the enigma is like: hey guys, according to our observer, our jungle is warded.

Later on, the map is entirely dark, CM suddenly: Lycan roshing -> move to rosh -> die.

it is just so painful to be on the same team with cheater.


Changing topic: Did anyone know if you re summon beast master units, they stay on the same hot key you assign them before they die? Is there any similar example of this?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 03:49:52
August 01 2012 03:49 GMT
#15649
On August 01 2012 12:35 NB wrote:
Changing topic: Did anyone know if you re summon beast master units, they stay on the same hot key you assign them before they die? Is there any similar example of this?

As far as I'm aware, it works with all summoned units now. I know for a fact it works with Lycan wolves.

EDIT: I'm not sure if it works with summons that last longer than their CD like Furion Treants. Might just work with summons that can't have multiples.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 03:56:15
August 01 2012 03:55 GMT
#15650
On August 01 2012 11:18 NB wrote:
well they check items progression i guess. Its so sad that they were all like: Lycan roshing guy-> go to rosh pit -> lycan killed them all -> lycan took rosh...

I hardly talk to people in pub but this time i was quite raging so hard. I cant even came up with a match making solution to get rid of these type of trash can players. ~_~

Pretty sure you're being paranoid. I honestly have no idea how you can deduce the fact that they were doing all that just from guessing lycan was roshing. They'd honestly have a better shot predicting lycan just by pure luck or just not seeing him on the map for a while or just some random timing they have. Like 2 minutes is a long ass time to predict when lycan will rosh.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 01 2012 03:58 GMT
#15651
On August 01 2012 12:35 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 11:41 Nilrem wrote:
On August 01 2012 11:22 LAN-f34r wrote:
Are you really sure they didn't have wards? Or that, despite being really really bad, they knew when lycan can rosh and started camping when it was possible?


Probably best bet is to view replay. Will be able to see how natural their timings were and such. Wont be as obvious as like, map hacking. But it should give a clue to the timings and such.

nah... the enigma is like: hey guys, according to our observer, our jungle is warded.

Later on, the map is entirely dark, CM suddenly: Lycan roshing -> move to rosh -> die.

it is just so painful to be on the same team with cheater.


How can they tell from an observer since all obs games have delay?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 01 2012 04:01 GMT
#15652
Works with all units. Invoker spirits, syllabear, beastmaster, broodmother etc etc. Thought that it was common knowledge.
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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
August 01 2012 04:49 GMT
#15653
On August 01 2012 12:49 TheYango wrote:

EDIT: I'm not sure if it works with summons that last longer than their CD like Furion Treants. Might just work with summons that can't have multiples.


the extra treants get added to the control group automatically.

the same works for enigma's eidolons as well. the 3 extra that spawn from the original 3 automatically get added to the control group.
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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
August 01 2012 04:52 GMT
#15654
also, does anyone here play (or can play) on SEA? seems like there are only three (me kona DND/stancel)
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
August 01 2012 05:21 GMT
#15655
On August 01 2012 11:48 Balinor wrote:
Can someone tell me who the best pro player to watch to learn broodmother is? A match id would be especially appreciated!


Aui_2000 of POTM BOTTOM plays a very good and fairly unique broodmother.

Light of Heaven is a great one, he favors the orchid -> bkb or straight bkb. Very safe laner, great at showing standard broodmother play.

Aui_2000 plays a different sort of style. Starting generally around lvl 5 (solo lane, has soul ring, pref against solo laner), Aui will cut the creep wave and just sit inbetween T1 and T2. He essentially forces someone to be at the tower at all times and a 1-2 hero commitment to chase him away (which generally plays into POTM's hand as they like to pick strong push+teamfight alongside the brood). Anyway, his style of laning is riskier but imo more effective. His item progression is pretty unique as well. Instead of an orchid or a BKB, he gets a manta style first and then either more dps items (daedelus) or a bkb if needed.

I can't think of match ID's off the top of my head but if you have a ticket to any tournament POTM is playing in, you can probably find a game of Aui playing brood.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Balinor
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand47 Posts
August 01 2012 05:34 GMT
#15656
On August 01 2012 11:50 Kipsate wrote:
Try and get your hands on match IDs from LightOfHeaven, SexyBamboe or Lacoste is my bet.


Thanks! Any idea how to find replays or match ids of those players?
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 01 2012 06:03 GMT
#15657
On August 01 2012 13:52 zeehar wrote:
also, does anyone here play (or can play) on SEA? seems like there are only three (me kona DND/stancel)


me, add me on steam: uberb

always wanted to play with TL members
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
August 01 2012 06:14 GMT
#15658
I play on SEA as well

TXO.promilkid (Dota2) or myrmidon2537 (on steam)
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 01 2012 07:34 GMT
#15659
On August 01 2012 12:58 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 12:35 NB wrote:
On August 01 2012 11:41 Nilrem wrote:
On August 01 2012 11:22 LAN-f34r wrote:
Are you really sure they didn't have wards? Or that, despite being really really bad, they knew when lycan can rosh and started camping when it was possible?


Probably best bet is to view replay. Will be able to see how natural their timings were and such. Wont be as obvious as like, map hacking. But it should give a clue to the timings and such.

nah... the enigma is like: hey guys, according to our observer, our jungle is warded.

Later on, the map is entirely dark, CM suddenly: Lycan roshing -> move to rosh -> die.

it is just so painful to be on the same team with cheater.


How can they tell from an observer since all obs games have delay?

Yeah, I was wondering this as well.

Aren't there like 4-5 min delay on obs?
"Yeah buddy"
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 07:59:25
August 01 2012 07:59 GMT
#15660
2 minute delay. It is quite easy to 'observer-hack' for wards but quite difficult to do the same for rosh.
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