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Souone
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil470 Posts
July 30 2012 01:27 GMT
#15521
AR mode is already available, but only for custom games, for some reason they don't want to include it on the public MM at this point, I think there are a couple of topícs about it on the dev.dota2.com forum.
Shichibukai
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden355 Posts
July 30 2012 01:46 GMT
#15522
How long queue times do you guys get on Co-op bot matches? I'm quite new, only played ~10 or so co-op games, still level 1, and I sometimes wait for 10 or more minutes to get a game. No, I've never abandoned or been put in the low prio queue.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
July 30 2012 01:51 GMT
#15523
not sure, i don't think very many people play co-op bot matches, so i think the 10+ minute queue sounds reasonable
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 30 2012 01:54 GMT
#15524
i did 1 easy mode bot and one normal bot game last night at 3 am pst and i got games within 20 seconds of pressing find match
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
July 30 2012 02:01 GMT
#15525
Yeah co-op bot matches are actually quite popular and normally take less then 30s to find a match. Are you sure you aren't using the test client?
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
July 30 2012 02:08 GMT
#15526
Its weird though, sometimes there will be quite a long queue for them, best most of the time its like 20 sec to find a game.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
July 30 2012 02:45 GMT
#15527
On July 30 2012 10:05 Erasme wrote:
If you introduce some factor in ar it won't be ar ??


True, but if it's gonna have MMR, it should have some element of skill ;o
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 30 2012 04:49 GMT
#15528
Just got a message saying that Valve has taken action against a player I reported, blah blah blah... I don't even remember when was the last time I reported, probably those 4x4 spammers, but it's still a nice feeling.
ffxiv enjoyer
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
July 30 2012 05:22 GMT
#15529
On July 29 2012 21:42 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 21:25 The Great Taste wrote:
On July 29 2012 21:18 NB wrote:
On July 29 2012 20:09 Firebolt145 wrote:
I have never been in low priority but I have queued with friends who were. Every time I queued with that it would take 15 minutes minimum to get a game, which would be almost guaranteed to be ruined by leavers. I am also more tempted to believe that it takes more than one game worth of everyone reporting you to stick in that queue.

I am happy with all of this. If you're getting placed in the leavers queue, I dare say you deserve it even if you think you don't.

as funny as it might sounds, my normal search average time is 15 mins per game too. The thing is people dont actually hit decline in low priority and they actually load unlike normal priority queue where you could search for a game in 8 mins and they got declined -> research.

And yes, stating the number of game you play is pretty much meaning less. This is an issue where the system became a tool to punish people you hate, a bully mechanic when you could just gang up on a player with not much reason. If i queue on EU only and play 3 games in a row, somehow i got more than 2 loses out of those 3 games i will be put in low priority queue. People already started to report each other for no reason already.


Ok, changing topic: Furion jungle guide:
Skill teleport first, buy mass branches (6 slots).
Quickly tele to ward spot in rad jungle and farm the first big camp there without taking any damage (unless its troll camp).
Then tele to a special spot in dire near river camp (the place where u normally ward for rune) and farm that place.

You can do it over and over, guarantee 1 level per min and get a midas pretty quickly WHILE skilling teleport over trees.
You will have teleport to gank over the map and almost always have enough mana to do so.
Example replay: 29045258, 29009547


Neat idea, might give it a try! Though, of course, doing it on the Dire side of the map could lead to you getting first blooded instead if the spot is warded. It was a common tactic to do what you mentioned in Dota 1, except there was a clearing southeast of that Dire camp so you could farm it from there instead of the usual ward spot.

Also, has anyone observed how the creeps move away when hurt by invisible heroes now? You can do stacked camp farming via smoke in Dota 1 at certain camps because they don't run away properly (they move into the cliff, if you understand that) such as leftmost Sentinel camp.


actually no. the place on the dire side is extremely hard to spot if not impossible to get vision on. its a very special spot, watch replay for exact detail. I think enemies could only see you if you start attacking them.


Seems like your dps for jungling is very low at level 1,
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 30 2012 05:33 GMT
#15530
On July 29 2012 21:42 NB wrote:
actually no. the place on the dire side is extremely hard to spot if not impossible to get vision on. its a very special spot, watch replay for exact detail. I think enemies could only see you if you start attacking them.

I think the terrain is actually slightly different in DotA 2. There's a bit of high ground there that used to be low ground in DotA 1 (in DotA 1 there's a tiny bit of low ground that can be used to chokepoint jungle off that medium camp). The change in terrain makes that spot safer and harder to see, whereas in DotA 1, the spot was more visible to various ward placements.
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sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
July 30 2012 07:23 GMT
#15531
On July 27 2012 18:41 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 17:17 sandyph wrote:
abit late to the party,
my first game of dota was on dota2

I choose BS because he looked cool, went mid because everybody say that's where I should go, give up first blood, ended up 3-18-15 with Tranquil boots, stout shield, Ring of Aquila, Crystalys and Wraith Band.

surprisingly, not a single abuse. Just 1 guy telling me to 'dont get balsy' when Im getting low health.

the next couple of games however ......

I hate people like you who can't play at least 2-3 bot games before playing against other people.


On July 28 2012 01:07 Silentenigma wrote:
[People like you ruin other people s games.There is a dota 2 QQ thread for just people like you.Just watch some streams and play versus bots a bit.Go read a hero guide for your hero at playdota.com.Learn his item and skill build.Familiarize yourself with game THEN go solo queue.



well, the DOTA2 client back then is pretty un-intuitive. there's only a big play button that's enable (all the other button dont do anything) which will then show a big find match button . Tbh I didnt even know there were Bots in the game untill 20-30 games in (which by then I already know enough to keep my 48-50% win rate so whatever)

though its funny seeing people raging on the noobs while the real people that have their time 'wasted' dont even say anything bad
Put quote here for readability
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 07:33:13
July 30 2012 07:31 GMT
#15532
On July 30 2012 16:23 sandyph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 18:41 SilverStar wrote:
On July 27 2012 17:17 sandyph wrote:
abit late to the party,
my first game of dota was on dota2

I choose BS because he looked cool, went mid because everybody say that's where I should go, give up first blood, ended up 3-18-15 with Tranquil boots, stout shield, Ring of Aquila, Crystalys and Wraith Band.

surprisingly, not a single abuse. Just 1 guy telling me to 'dont get balsy' when Im getting low health.

the next couple of games however ......

I hate people like you who can't play at least 2-3 bot games before playing against other people.


Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 01:07 Silentenigma wrote:
[People like you ruin other people s games.There is a dota 2 QQ thread for just people like you.Just watch some streams and play versus bots a bit.Go read a hero guide for your hero at playdota.com.Learn his item and skill build.Familiarize yourself with game THEN go solo queue.



well, the DOTA2 client back then is pretty un-intuitive. there's only a big play button that's enable (all the other button dont do anything) which will then show a big find match button . Tbh I didnt even know there were Bots in the game untill 20-30 games in (which by then I already know enough to keep my 48-50% win rate so whatever)

though its funny seeing people raging on the noobs while the real people that have their time 'wasted' dont even say anything bad


IMO, not really nice for those guys to say what they said. There is almost always someone worse/better than you. Matchmaking will eventually match you up with other people like yourself. (Actually may have posted a comment like this earlier but w/e)

And comments like these are why I avoid the QQ thread. Of course I complain about other people, but it's the ones who act like they are faultless.
Skamtet
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada634 Posts
July 30 2012 09:08 GMT
#15533
On July 30 2012 09:59 paper wrote:
AR needs some standardization that uses the current tags imo, e.g. max 1-2 carries

or else it's not fun at all with a good chance of 3+ carries
now to define who is and what is a carry
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
July 30 2012 09:33 GMT
#15534
On July 30 2012 18:08 Skamtet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 09:59 paper wrote:
AR needs some standardization that uses the current tags imo, e.g. max 1-2 carries

or else it's not fun at all with a good chance of 3+ carries
now to define who is and what is a carry

Thats why he said "uses the current tags", the game has already classified which heroes are carries and how good they are at it.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
July 30 2012 09:37 GMT
#15535
On July 30 2012 11:45 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 10:05 Erasme wrote:
If you introduce some factor in ar it won't be ar ??


True, but if it's gonna have MMR, it should have some element of skill ;o

Nah man, just gotta play enough games. It evens out.
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Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
July 30 2012 09:50 GMT
#15536
Couldn't they just use the MMR to find the AR game, but your MMR wouldn't change if you win or lose?
"Yeah buddy"
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
July 30 2012 10:00 GMT
#15537
they could but thats a whole new feature. Ie its not simply a case of adding the ar option to mm.

The problem with Ar is that if everyone doesnt know every hero and its rated people qq which just ruins the game for everyone.
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
July 30 2012 10:18 GMT
#15538
Yea, the swap feature needs to be implemented if AR is to have any traction.
.AK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States561 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 10:34:59
July 30 2012 10:30 GMT
#15539
A wild flamewheel appears on Blitz's stream.
And then feeds firstblood.
All hail the glorious I sell T.Vs at Best Buy || #1 REQUIZEN FANBOI || IGN: .AK/BEST ANTIMAGE NA || Plat IV ADC Main
Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
July 30 2012 10:54 GMT
#15540
Flamewheel and kipsate got pwnt :D
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