• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:54
CET 18:54
KST 02:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
[D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win
Tourneys
SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War List of top players active on ShieldBattery BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ sOs joins Best's team, Newcatsle University SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement!
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stratus: Battle for the sky now on steam Early acc Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9378 users

General Discussion - Page 649

Forum Index > Dota 2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 647 648 649 650 651 6534 Next
IRC chatter should remain in IRC - http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=tl.dota2

Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
June 21 2012 20:12 GMT
#12961
Apollo seemed to rub off me the wrong way especially when he was so dismissive and condescending.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 21 2012 20:23 GMT
#12962
Who cares about Apollo anyway. He lives in his own little bubble ;o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 21 2012 20:37 GMT
#12963
Wow Apollo.... what an asshole. How is it unreasonable for DH finals to have over 70k viewers, when The Defense finals had 50k!? And that was a couple moths ago.
super gg
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
June 21 2012 20:53 GMT
#12964
On June 22 2012 05:37 cecek wrote:
Wow Apollo.... what an asshole. How is it unreasonable for DH finals to have over 70k viewers, when The Defense finals had 50k!? And that was a couple moths ago.

I also hate how he generalised people into only watching one game, a lot of people actually watch multiple esports titles together and DreamHack had chained all the finals together made for an excellent variety experience. Its not like people can't enjoy LoL, DOTA and SC2 at the same time.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
June 21 2012 20:55 GMT
#12965
On June 22 2012 05:53 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 05:37 cecek wrote:
Wow Apollo.... what an asshole. How is it unreasonable for DH finals to have over 70k viewers, when The Defense finals had 50k!? And that was a couple moths ago.

I also hate how he generalised people into only watching one game, a lot of people actually watch multiple esports titles together and DreamHack had chained all the finals together made for an excellent variety experience. Its not like people can't enjoy LoL, DOTA and SC2 at the same time.


woah there, no need to make outlandish statements
Hates Fun🤔
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 21 2012 20:55 GMT
#12966
On June 22 2012 05:53 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 05:37 cecek wrote:
Wow Apollo.... what an asshole. How is it unreasonable for DH finals to have over 70k viewers, when The Defense finals had 50k!? And that was a couple moths ago.

I also hate how he generalised people into only watching one game, a lot of people actually watch multiple esports titles together and DreamHack had chained all the finals together made for an excellent variety experience. Its not like people can't enjoy LoL, DOTA and SC2 at the same time.


How high did the stream number go when SC2 was on? I only follow Dota 2, don't have time for more eports, so I shut the stream off when mTw won.
super gg
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 21 2012 20:57 GMT
#12967
On June 22 2012 05:55 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 05:53 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 22 2012 05:37 cecek wrote:
Wow Apollo.... what an asshole. How is it unreasonable for DH finals to have over 70k viewers, when The Defense finals had 50k!? And that was a couple moths ago.

I also hate how he generalised people into only watching one game, a lot of people actually watch multiple esports titles together and DreamHack had chained all the finals together made for an excellent variety experience. Its not like people can't enjoy LoL, DOTA and SC2 at the same time.


woah there, no need to make outlandish statements


I watched all of those games at Dreamhack. Now if you added HoN... ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 20:59:52
June 21 2012 20:58 GMT
#12968
On June 22 2012 05:57 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 05:55 paper wrote:
On June 22 2012 05:53 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 22 2012 05:37 cecek wrote:
Wow Apollo.... what an asshole. How is it unreasonable for DH finals to have over 70k viewers, when The Defense finals had 50k!? And that was a couple moths ago.

I also hate how he generalised people into only watching one game, a lot of people actually watch multiple esports titles together and DreamHack had chained all the finals together made for an excellent variety experience. Its not like people can't enjoy LoL, DOTA and SC2 at the same time.


woah there, no need to make outlandish statements


I watched all of those games at Dreamhack. Now if you added HoN... ^_^


There was also BLC and Quave Live! Really great tournament for esports in general though I really wanted Cypher to win.


On June 22 2012 05:55 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 05:53 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 22 2012 05:37 cecek wrote:
Wow Apollo.... what an asshole. How is it unreasonable for DH finals to have over 70k viewers, when The Defense finals had 50k!? And that was a couple moths ago.

I also hate how he generalised people into only watching one game, a lot of people actually watch multiple esports titles together and DreamHack had chained all the finals together made for an excellent variety experience. Its not like people can't enjoy LoL, DOTA and SC2 at the same time.


How high did the stream number go when SC2 was on? I only follow Dota 2, don't have time for more eports, so I shut the stream off when mTw won.


The stream numbers went to down to about 40k but I would really credit that to how late it was during monday for most europeans and the enormous delay than anything else.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 21 2012 21:01 GMT
#12969
On June 22 2012 05:55 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 05:53 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 22 2012 05:37 cecek wrote:
Wow Apollo.... what an asshole. How is it unreasonable for DH finals to have over 70k viewers, when The Defense finals had 50k!? And that was a couple moths ago.

I also hate how he generalised people into only watching one game, a lot of people actually watch multiple esports titles together and DreamHack had chained all the finals together made for an excellent variety experience. Its not like people can't enjoy LoL, DOTA and SC2 at the same time.


How high did the stream number go when SC2 was on? I only follow Dota 2, don't have time for more eports, so I shut the stream off when mTw won.


Afaik it always have been around 40k.

Atleast that was the way appollo argued. Dota had 60k and then dropped to 40k with sc2 -> 20k where there for dota.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 21 2012 21:18 GMT
#12970
On June 19 2012 08:47 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 01:06 MrCon wrote:
http://de.twitch.tv/chu8

The guy insist he's "the" Chu, but is he The Chu ? I was such a fanboy, going everyday on his replay thread hoping he would release a new one.

edit : missed the long description at bottom, it seems it is =)

Dude needs to make up his mind. HoN > LoL > HoN > LoL > Dota 2? Also, every time he switches games, he says something along the lines of "yeah, the previous game I played was shit."


Actually its like Dota Hon LoL Hon LoL DFO Maplestory LoL Diablo 3 LoL Dota2.

He doesn't need to make up hsi mind because he doesn't give a shit, he just wants to do his thing, if he wants to game hop then so be it lol.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
eqez
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden837 Posts
June 21 2012 21:19 GMT
#12971

Nice video
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 21 2012 21:30 GMT
#12972
Can anybody remind me, since rubick got added to CM, how popular has he been in the chinese scene?
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
June 21 2012 21:33 GMT
#12973
On June 22 2012 06:30 Unleashing wrote:
Can anybody remind me, since rubick got added to CM, how popular has he been in the chinese scene?

I don't know a lot about the Chinese scene for the last couple of months or so but I do know that Rubick is top ban in SEA teams.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10989 Posts
June 21 2012 21:36 GMT
#12974
I just noticed that stats are back in...

Funsies:
My Darkseer: 34 wins -> 8 losses (by far my best and most beloved hero).

"Rating for him:
Not even 2 fields full...

The fuck? :D
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#12975
On June 22 2012 06:33 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 06:30 Unleashing wrote:
Can anybody remind me, since rubick got added to CM, how popular has he been in the chinese scene?

I don't know a lot about the Chinese scene for the last couple of months or so but I do know that Rubick is top ban in SEA teams.

I figured as much just looking at his skills..
My friend insists that he'll be a non-factor that will rarely ever be picked.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#12976
On June 22 2012 06:36 Velr wrote:
I just noticed that stats are back in...

Funsies:
My Darkseer: 34 wins -> 8 losses (by far my best and most beloved hero).

"Rating for him:
Not even 2 fields full...

The fuck? :D

I think its been there for a few updates.

If you don't get beyond godlikes with every life with DS, you aren't above average...
:D
ヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノDELETE ICEFROGヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 21:45:48
June 21 2012 21:44 GMT
#12977
On June 22 2012 06:39 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 06:33 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 22 2012 06:30 Unleashing wrote:
Can anybody remind me, since rubick got added to CM, how popular has he been in the chinese scene?

I don't know a lot about the Chinese scene for the last couple of months or so but I do know that Rubick is top ban in SEA teams.

I figured as much just looking at his skills..
My friend insists that he'll be a non-factor that will rarely ever be picked.

His real power comes from the lack of casting animation (eg fissure) making so many spells better than they actually are. He probably won't be a first pick as he can be counter picked really easily.

Edit: Fade Bolt also allows you to dominate your lane and Tele is just a real good stun. His passive makes anti-mage almost immune to magic damage as well.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 21 2012 22:01 GMT
#12978
On June 22 2012 06:44 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 06:39 Unleashing wrote:
On June 22 2012 06:33 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 22 2012 06:30 Unleashing wrote:
Can anybody remind me, since rubick got added to CM, how popular has he been in the chinese scene?

I don't know a lot about the Chinese scene for the last couple of months or so but I do know that Rubick is top ban in SEA teams.

I figured as much just looking at his skills..
My friend insists that he'll be a non-factor that will rarely ever be picked.

His real power comes from the lack of casting animation (eg fissure) making so many spells better than they actually are. He probably won't be a first pick as he can be counter picked really easily.

Edit: Fade Bolt also allows you to dominate your lane and Tele is just a real good stun. His passive makes anti-mage almost immune to magic damage as well.


AM+Rubick+Pipe+Heart+a ton of armor would be funny
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 21 2012 23:19 GMT
#12979
On June 22 2012 06:01 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 05:55 cecek wrote:
On June 22 2012 05:53 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 22 2012 05:37 cecek wrote:
Wow Apollo.... what an asshole. How is it unreasonable for DH finals to have over 70k viewers, when The Defense finals had 50k!? And that was a couple moths ago.

I also hate how he generalised people into only watching one game, a lot of people actually watch multiple esports titles together and DreamHack had chained all the finals together made for an excellent variety experience. Its not like people can't enjoy LoL, DOTA and SC2 at the same time.


How high did the stream number go when SC2 was on? I only follow Dota 2, don't have time for more eports, so I shut the stream off when mTw won.


Afaik it always have been around 40k.

Atleast that was the way appollo argued. Dota had 60k and then dropped to 40k with sc2 -> 20k where there for dota.



yeah apollo was being a huge idiot during that conversation. it's like he couldn't believe dota had better numbers than SC2. I felt he was being a real douche during that entire discussion, and I really like apollo but that made me mergh him. I didn't really like incontroL nearly falling asleep and acting bored during the CEO interview, I thought it was good. I enjoyed the candidness between 2GD, Hellspawn and CEO. Crazy dynamic they got running DH!
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 23:24:51
June 21 2012 23:23 GMT
#12980
On June 22 2012 06:39 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 06:33 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 22 2012 06:30 Unleashing wrote:
Can anybody remind me, since rubick got added to CM, how popular has he been in the chinese scene?

I don't know a lot about the Chinese scene for the last couple of months or so but I do know that Rubick is top ban in SEA teams.

I figured as much just looking at his skills..
My friend insists that he'll be a non-factor that will rarely ever be picked.

More like he'll be a non-factor because no one will let him through the bans lol.

He's been a very frequent ban since he got added to -CM. I'd expect him to be a tad weaker in DotA 2 if it's true that he uses the original hero's animation time, and not his own.
Moderator
Prev 1 647 648 649 650 651 6534 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
02:00
FSL season 12 opener: HM vs ST
Freeedom31
Liquipedia
AI Arena Tournament
02:00
RO4
Laughngamez YouTube
IPSL
02:00
Ro24 Group B
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
Airneanach120
Liquipedia
IntoTheTV X SOOP
20:00
Premier - Quarterfinals
WardiTV935
TaKeTV 197
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 214
BRAT_OK 90
EmSc Tv 32
MindelVK 22
EnDerr 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 28130
Rain 1393
Hyun 96
scan(afreeca) 35
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
yabsab 12
Sacsri 11
Dota 2
qojqva3141
420jenkins269
League of Legends
Trikslyr37
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox279
Other Games
tarik_tv4538
PiGStarcraft261
Fuzer 256
DeMusliM215
QueenE115
XaKoH 93
Mew2King91
NeuroSwarm43
Railgan21
UpATreeSC16
fpsfer 3
Chillindude2
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV912
BasetradeTV193
Counter-Strike
PGL110
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 32
EmSc2Tv 32
Other Games
gamesdonequick0
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 44
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 32
• Michael_bg 7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3538
• Jankos781
Other Games
• imaqtpie798
• Shiphtur491
• WagamamaTV414
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
17h 6m
IPSL
23h 6m
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
IPSL
6 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-05
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.